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When does the Law act !!!!! , what does the 17th Edition stand for , reading material only

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HOW TO: Install wall lights and downlighters :

( Buy a light for 50 pounds / But you must take out house insurance with the work you are doing !!!!!!! ) Amberleaf

Q : why do Electricians have to sit C/G part P and the rest ( James bond had a license to kill ??? what are they doing , ive looked at the carefully and at least 25 regulations’ are missing & H/S and all that , PS this is a disgrace to the H/S of the Public ,

Where are the NICEIC when you need them !!!!!!!! : sorry ive drop my wallet ,

What does it take before the Government will do something about this , PS , a loss of live

There are to many Company’s ( Like H/B and others ) showing the Public how to wire lights switches and lights

On the Net , ive , had a look at theses ,
This 'How to' guides you through the process of installing wall lights, downlighters and low voltage lights. It explains how to run the lighting circuits for the different types of lighting and offers lots of useful advice on positioning and connecting the lights.
Remember, if you're at all unsure about working with electrical wiring, use a professional qualified electrician ↔↔↔ ( Loop Hole )

Please note: safety disclaimer:
All diagrams relating to electrical wiring have been created in a colour format. If you are printing this document in black and white, we advise you to follow these basic safety precautions:
1. Make a careful note of the colour diagrams as seen on your screen. Note the colour and position of each wire in the diagram.
2. Follow all safety instructions provided by the manufacturer of the equipment you are using.
3. If in doubt, contact a qualified electrician.

About lighting circuits
For a description of loop-in and junction box systems, and guidance on identifying the connections for both types of system, See How to:
Remove a ceiling light. Regulations govern the load a single lighting circuit may carry. These regulations allow up to 12 x 100 watt bulbs on a 5 amp re-wireable fuse or cartridge-fused circuit. A 6 amp Miniature Circuit Breaker (MCB) may have up to 14 x 100 watt bulbs. As you may
use some bulbs with a higher wattage, it's good practice to restrict the circuit to 8 fittings.

Wall lights
Lighting circuits for wall lights may run as follows:
• As a spur from an existing ceiling pendant light on a loop-in circuit(figs. 2 and 3)

• From a junction box connected into a junction box circuit (fig. 4)
• From a junction box replacing a ceiling rose. This system would use the old switch cable (fig. 5)

• From a fused spur off a 30 amp ring main (fig. 6 and 20). Note how it's switched in a separate box to the ceiling light.

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downlighter holes or by a floor trap not concealed by a floor covering. Read the manufacturer's instructions for further guidance on positioning.

Final wiring connections
The various methods for wiring circuits for different situations are shown in figs. 2–10. Beside each relevant fitting is a number. This coincides with a Figure illustrating the wiring connections for that particular use, for example in fig. 3 the switch is wired as in fig.15, the light fitting as in fig.13 and the ceiling rose as in fig.18. Earthing is a built-in safety device to reduce the effects of electrical shock. All metal within a circuit, for example wall boxes and metal light fittings, must be earthed. At the termination, green and yellow sleeving is placed over the earth conductor.
Some fittings are double insulated, which means they're not connected to the earth conductor. These fittings have a special symbol attached, which is usually on the packaging (fig.1). When connecting twin and earth mains cable to a double insulated fitting, don't cut off the earth conductor. You may need it at a later date for a different fitting. Place earth sleeving over the conductor, fold it back onto the PVC outer sheath,
and tape it so that the sleeving cannot fall off (fig. 21a). Some low voltage lights come as a kit with built-in connectors (fig. 21a). Others come
wired into connector blocks (fig. 21b). In this instance, on the low voltage side of the transformer, you can cut off the earth conductor.
Use the correct transformer for the type and number of lights you're installing. Position it in an accessible cupboard with sufficient air space around. Only position it elsewhere if you can still gain easy access, eg through one of the low voltage downlighter holes or by a floor trap not concealed by a floor covering. Read the manufacturer's instructions for further guidance on positioning.

HOW TO: Install wall lights and downlighters Running cables

Wall lights
Lighting circuits for wall lights may run as follows:
• As a spur from an existing ceiling pendant light on a loop-in circuit
(figs. 2 and 3)
• From a junction box connected into a junction box circuit (fig. 4)
• From a junction box replacing a ceiling rose. This system would use the old switch cable (fig. 5)
• From a fused spur off a 30 amp ring main (fig. 6 and 20). Note how it's switched in a separate box to the ceiling light.


PS , Sorry about this Dan , I feel strongly about this , Electricians’ have to take a lot off stick of the public ,

Well Chaps am I Right or Wrong , when does Safety come in to this PS, I will be EX Communicated of this ,

Well said, I was going to mention the B+Q " how to " display boards myself.

Originally Posted by amberleaf

When does the Law act !!!!! , what does the 17th Edition stand for , reading material only 17th is not a statutory document so what do you mean"When does the Law act !!!!! "

Homebase.co.uk ( you can down load this off the inter net , )

HOW TO: Install wall lights and downlighters :

( Buy a light for 50 pounds / But you must take out house insurance with the work you are doing !!!!!!! ) Amberleaf

Q : why do Electricians have to sit C/G part P (No such qualification as C/G part P, Part P is a BUILDING REGULATION) and the rest ( James bond had a license to kill ??? what are they doing , ive looked at the carefully and at least 25 regulations’ are missing & H/S and all that , PS this is a disgrace to the H/S of the Public ,

Where are the NICEIC when you need them !!!!!!!! : sorry ive drop my wallet ,

What does it take before the Government will do something about this , PS , a loss of live

There are to many Company’s ( Like H/B and others ) showing the Public how to wire lights switches and lights

On the Net , ive , had a look at theses ,
This 'How to' guides you through the process of installing wall lights, downlighters and low voltage lights. It explains how to run the lighting circuits for the different types of lighting and offers lots of useful advice on positioning and connecting the lights.
Remember, if you're at all unsure about working with electrical wiring, use a professional qualified electrician ↔↔↔ ( Loop Hole )

Please note: safety disclaimer:
All diagrams relating to electrical wiring have been created in a colour format. If you are printing this document in black and white, we advise you to follow these basic safety precautions:
1. Make a careful note of the colour diagrams as seen on your screen. Note the colour and position of each wire in the diagram.
2. Follow all safety instructions provided by the manufacturer of the equipment you are using.
3. If in doubt, contact a qualified electrician.

About lighting circuits
For a description of loop-in and junction box systems, and guidance on identifying the connections for both types of system, See How to:
Remove a ceiling light. Regulations govern the load a single lighting circuit may carry. These regulations allow up to 12 x 100 watt bulbs on a 5 amp re-wireable fuse or cartridge-fused circuit. A 6 amp Miniature Circuit Breaker (MCB) may have up to 14 x 100 watt bulbs. As you may
use some bulbs with a higher wattage, it's good practice to restrict the circuit to 8 fittings.

Wall lights
Lighting circuits for wall lights may run as follows:
• As a spur from an existing ceiling pendant light on a loop-in circuit(figs. 2 and 3)

• From a junction box connected into a junction box circuit (fig. 4)
• From a junction box replacing a ceiling rose. This system would use the old switch cable (fig. 5)

• From a fused spur off a 30 amp ring main (fig. 6 and 20). Note how it's switched in a separate box to the ceiling light.

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downlighter holes or by a floor trap not concealed by a floor covering. Read the manufacturer's instructions for further guidance on positioning.

Final wiring connections
The various methods for wiring circuits for different situations are shown in figs. 2–10. Beside each relevant fitting is a number. This coincides with a Figure illustrating the wiring connections for that particular use, for example in fig. 3 the switch is wired as in fig.15, the light fitting as in fig.13 and the ceiling rose as in fig.18. Earthing is a built-in safety device to reduce the effects of electrical shock. All metal within a circuit, for example wall boxes and metal light fittings, must be earthed. At the termination, green and yellow sleeving is placed over the earth conductor.
Some fittings are double insulated, which means they're not connected to the earth conductor. These fittings have a special symbol attached, which is usually on the packaging (fig.1). When connecting twin and earth mains cable to a double insulated fitting, don't cut off the earth conductor. You may need it at a later date for a different fitting. Place earth sleeving over the conductor, fold it back onto the PVC outer sheath,
and tape it so that the sleeving cannot fall off (fig. 21a). Some low voltage lights come as a kit with built-in connectors (fig. 21a). Others come
wired into connector blocks (fig. 21b). In this instance, on the low voltage side of the transformer, you can cut off the earth conductor.
Use the correct transformer for the type and number of lights you're installing. Position it in an accessible cupboard with sufficient air space around. Only position it elsewhere if you can still gain easy access, eg through one of the low voltage downlighter holes or by a floor trap not concealed by a floor covering. Read the manufacturer's instructions for further guidance on positioning.

HOW TO: Install wall lights and downlighters Running cables

Wall lights
Lighting circuits for wall lights may run as follows:
• As a spur from an existing ceiling pendant light on a loop-in circuit
(figs. 2 and 3)
• From a junction box connected into a junction box circuit (fig. 4)
• From a junction box replacing a ceiling rose. This system would use the old switch cable (fig. 5)
• From a fused spur off a 30 amp ring main (fig. 6 and 20). Note how it's switched in a separate box to the ceiling light.


PS , Sorry about this Dan , I feel strongly about this , Electricians’ have to take a lot off stick of the public ,

Well Chaps am I Right or Wrong , when does Safety come in to this PS, I will be EX Communicated of this ,

While companies are allowed to sell electrical cable, sockets etc are supplied to the general public then they will get away with it as there is nothing in law to stop them from selling them.

i wonder how many un compitent people have bought a cu from b&q and fitted it wrong or worse?

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