Cirrus

Thank you Malc- crystal clear now.

Shakey

I read perfectly well thank you, try it!

When did i mention anything about being registered?

I am not a member of a competent persons scheme - and I am not cockey, but I am competent

I did not qualify above anyone else, but tneither did they qualify above me. The point is (barring any regs contraventions etc) that if my work is installed in accordance with the current edition of the regs, and is tested satisfactorily as such, then no-one has the authority to question my decisions.

One person may say "well I would have done it like this", but as long as the way I have done it complies, then their opinion is just that - an opionion

I find your attitude to posts quite aggressive, and like Cirrus says, lets keep it civil!

And there is the point Malc, you are NICEIC registered, so you must follow their rules. I am not, so I dont have to. No NICEIC engineer, senior or otherwise, has the power to overule my work. My work complies with BS7671, and that is the requirement

And I CAN self certify - The Approved Documnet to Part P specifically allows me to do this - although I believe YOUR definition of 'self-certifying' may differ from mine.

I follow para's 1.20B, 1.21, 1.22 & 1.23 which specificaly states that because I am qualified and competent to do so, I should test my own work and compile BS7671 certificates for submission to the LABC. This is self-certifying my own work, and is perfectly acceptable.

Darius-parky

This is what I copy and paste from Part P website:

Does Part P Apply To Me?

Part P applies to all electrical installation work carried out in dwellings. However, you do not need to tell your local authority's Building Control department about:

• repairs and maintenance work or
• extra power points or lighting points or other alterations to existing circuits (except in specially defined areas such as a kitchen, bathroom or outdoors)

If you are unsure you should contact your local authority's Building Control department or, if you are already dealing with a Competent Person, they should be able to advise you.

To find your local Building Control department visit the LABC website

mikey12

CHRIST i only started by asking a few questions down lads i understood the forum was here to help lol i think by the replys i got i now understandif i dont now i never will must think of something else to ask soon but will be careful on how i word itthanks for all the replys though

Des 56

How can so much confusion be still here within the trade 3 years after this part p nonesense was dreamed up
We hear complaints continually from within the trade that the general public know nothing of part p and if they do know of it then its ignored
How can we not see the nonesense for what it is when the trade itself after 3 years is still arguing about its set up/function/entry requirements etc Then be upset that its not better known generally by the public

Anyone installing electrical installations in mainly Domestic properties has to comply with Bs 7671 or a simmilar standard
All installations should be tested and inspected and the appropriate certificate issued
To test and inspect your work You need to be competent
Competence can be gained by qualifications to the current edition of the regs Test and inspection experience and knowledge and experience of the type of work carried out

Part p is a requirement to comply with the building regs
Most electrical work in domestic properties may be on the list of work that requires notification to labc
You notify labc before carrying out the work and possibly pay a fee set by the local office (unless other work is being overseen by guilding control in which case the electrical fee is included in this)
They are then responsible for the test and inspection (no fee payable)
They may if they please accept your own certificates if they consider you competent
(they will generally do this because they cant test and inspect themselves,so its more convieniant to use your's)

To avoid having to notify labc
Buisnesses (not individuals) can be registered as a competent person to self certify their work as complying with the building regs
For a buisness to be able to self certify They must join one of the government approved bodies who are listed as registration bodies by the Communities and local government Dept
To qualify as a competent person The buisness must possess the required knowledge /books /paperwork test meters and so on
Now to come full circle
To join a scheme you must pay their fee
Dont join and you must pay labc fees

It just boils down in the end To whom does my money now be gifted

Shakey

well done Des

so there chaps, thats it in a nutshell