mikey12

hi all been reading posts brilliant stuff one question though could someone please tell me what i need to register with governing body i have done my DEI and are on the point of doing my C+G 17th edition full course once this is completed my C+G 2391 L2 i believe correct me if im wrong is this enough as i want to concentrate on domestic installations your feedback good or bad would be greatly received

Malcg

Mikey

What actual work have you done as the supervisor? Or are you just finishing college?

Malcg

mikey12

sorry mate im no supervisor i wish to work for myself doing domestic installations and was wondering if the above quals are enough to register with a governing body to carry out domestic work ie:extra sockets ,lighting points concumer unit replacements and rewires in the future,wont be working on own assistance from sparky whos been in game 25yrs

Malcg

Mikey

To be Part P registered you have to be assessed by one of the bodies NIC, NAPIT etc against two recent jobs. Passing a course at college is not being registered as Part P!!

You need to upgrade to 2382 (17th Edition) before July 1st and carry out several installations before you will hvae enough experience to do the Inspection & Testing.
You will also need to be taking the 2392 (17th Edition) suggest after your Part P registered.

The first few jobs will have to be done using (and paying) Building Control to pass them and then NIC / NAPIT can assess you for these jobs to get you registered. You need to be the "supervisor" of the work so you cant work for someone else and use those jobs!

You will have had to trade as "supervisor" for at least six months before applying to register as Part P, and at least two years to apply for approved contractor with NIC.

Everyone has to start the same way - but dont cut corners or omit Building Control or you will fail on first hurdle!!

Good luck

mikey12

thanks malcg so my next step would be to do my 2382 17th by the 1st july then apply to niceic or other governing body ive done minor works ie:extra sockets or lighting points.So i believe to register with nic they state that you have to show them 2 pieces of work you have done 1 minor and 1 major but to do these i have to notify building control before doing them and after completion so they can inspect first is this correct if so i believe a major job is a consumer unit and minor could be a socket.Just for info what happens if i dont do 17th before 1st july sorry mate about long post trying to get all info right

Shakey

its not about getting it before 01 Jul, but you WILL have to get it before you join one of the schemes

yes, you quals will be enough to join, but like has already been said, you generally have to be trading for 6 months

the 2392 is a good move if you are not familiar with testing.

If you have done the DEI, you will find 2392 is the about the same level, at least you will have a formal test & inspect qual

You dont NEED 2391 to join a scheme, but you wont be able to do PIR's under the scheme without it

mikey12

ok thanks shakey so if i now complete my 2382 and you said trade for at least 6 mths before registering with niceic who i wish to go with that seems to be the main one then consider my inspection and test that will be ok . In the meantime can i continue doing minor jobs and one thing i was unsure about when you do your 2 jobs for inspection 1 minor 1 major i inform building control before i start these and upon completion is that correct sorry for going on but i want to get it all right

Shakey

why can you only do minor jobs?

look at it like this; the work you do (and can do) is exactly the same whether or not you are registered with a competent persons scheme

the work is till carried out, and you still need to test, inspect and certify it

only thing that changes is now you have to pre-notify all notifiable work to the LABC and submit copies of your certificates to them (they may want to inspect depending on the job), and when you join a competen persons scheme, you inform the scheme that you have done the work, but, the point is, the actaul work itself doesnt change, just the notification process

mikey12

god dont i go on

so i can do full installations ie rewires providing i notify building control once complete so they can inspect it as i know this costs you per inspection i believe ive got it now thanks

sorry shakey just been reading one of your other posts im repeating the same subject already covered

Malcg

NO YOU HAVE NOT UNDERSTOOD!!

The Owner of you on behalf of the Owner must register with building control BEFORE you start work - not during or after. The amount you pay to Buidling Control is dependant on the real value of the work being done (no false prices!!).

You have to give building control an opportunity to see the installation a) before you start, b) after first fix, and c) on completion with all the test results - BUT BEFORE BEING MADE LIVE for user.

You will also need to show compliance with the various sections of the Buidling Regulations:

B - Fire Safety
C - ... Resistance to Moisture
E - Resistance to the Passage of Sound
F - Ventilation
L - Conservation of Fuel and Power
M - Access to and Use of Buildings
P - Electrical Safety (of course)

BTW: It is a criminal offence to carry out work that does not comply with building regulations, with a maximum fine of £5,000 - the Owner would be liable for this offence!