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Old 30-03-2008   #11 (permalink)
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the two year timetable, is UP TO two years - you can complete the bulk of your training in three weeks (which can be virtually consecutive if you wish - although we advise spacing your training oout so you can consolidate what you have learned)

the final week of training - the C&G 2391 - we will not book until you passes your C&G 2382 & 2392 in the third week.

And Cirrus, whilst i respect your views i dont neccesarily agree with them

we have taught many, many students who have gone on to gainful employment in the electrical industry

obviuosly no-one comes in 'green', do four weeks of training and start up as 'ABC Electrics' the following week - we recommend our 'new' students get 6-12 months of real world experience working with electrical contractors before they consider working by themselves

we have stringent training criteria, and unless you can successfully test PFC's, explain how you would obtain the R1+R2 value given the r1 value for a line conductor on a ring main etc etc then you wont pass
I'm not 'knocking' these fast track courses but personally feel that you cannot do one of these courses and then go out on your own successfully as electric idiot wants to. I am sure most go onto work for a company where they will gain valuable experience but there is no way in the world you could competently and confidently go it alone after such a short time and with relative inexperience.
 
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Old 30-03-2008   #12 (permalink)
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mind you they are self help books "bluffing your way to...."and my favourite "dummies guide to...."
get fully qualified get some experience then the world is your mollusc ,age is no barrier
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Hi Cirrus,thanks for the comments-the reason I was considering this change of direction is because i thought it would be easier for me to get some form of trade qualification and set up as a self-employed individual-as I did have some electrical/electronic qualifications and experience.When I was a lad I did get C+G 2/3 in Radio/television Service ,ONC Electrical eng and HNC in electronic Engineering, with about ten years' experience working for GEC/PLessey Telecomms as a test technician-all radio and digital stuff.Result of this is I've experience of using various pieces of equipment--sorry for the rant,guess its my frustration bubbling up!!
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nice earner?????

do you get a free flag

Heres a bit i found on the web about finding a free course ,anyway with your electrical background why not just blag it,you can find all the cirtificates on the web .

FREE COLLEGE If you want to go to college free send away for the schedule of courses at the college of your choice. Pick your courses and walk into the designated classrooms. In some smaller classes this might be a problem but in large classes, of which there are hundreds in New York, there is no problem If you need books for the course, write to the publisher telling him you are a lecturer at some school and are considering using the book in your course.

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How Have You Got On With Your Search, I Am In The Same Boat Any Advice
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oddjobbers ....bit of this bit of of that, quali here quali there ..... WHATS WRONG WITH STRUCTURED TRAINING ?rather than trying to break peoples bad habits with a weeks course on sparkying teach them properly ....i'm going for nuclear fusion made easy next
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oddjobbers ....bit of this bit of of that, quali here quali there ..... WHATS WRONG WITH STRUCTURED TRAINING ?rather than trying to break peoples bad habits with a weeks course on sparkying teach them properly ....i'm going for nuclear fusion made easy next

Like i said before its a free for all ,they have invented all this red tape to keep us down,its all designed to try to stop us getting all the work ,

the youngsters need a job ,simple as.

what they have done is given them ours ,by diluting the trade ,that way they can get 4 guys to do what used to be one mans job ,and a load of lazy sods overseing them ,not to mention the teachers,health and safetty inspectors etc etc................

i say #### it all

at the end of the day you cant buy the right to call yourself a tradesman it has to be earned,

good luck everyone
 
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HI engee,
Welcome,I'm afraid I'm no further forwards as it appears people will quickly take your money and still you will not be that much further forward as to a career change-all this get 6/12 months experience is a non-starter if you are an old timer looking to move on-still undecided which way to go-all gloom and doom on variou trade forums,tiling,plumbing,plastering etc!
Hope you get a better experience than I so far.
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Theres not enough work to go around ,theres going to be casultys ,true tradesmen are very protective about there jobs ,by some missconseption everyone seems to think the electrical trade is easy ,well paid and plenty of work for everyone.

not wishing to deflate your illusion ,but........

I think we will see a return to the early eightys ,where if you were opperating off your patch you risked getting bashed. or worse ,
i know a plasterer who had to kill a guy ,because he had to, he had work stolen and he had 4 kids,the poacher was on his manor and wouldnt head the warning.....sh~t

be carefull and enjoy yourself.
 
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Theres not enough work to go around ,theres going to be casultys ,true tradesmen are very protective about there jobs ,by some missconseption everyone seems to think the electrical trade is easy ,well paid and plenty of work for everyone.

not wishing to deflate your illusion ,but........

I think we will see a return to the early eightys ,where if you were opperating off your patch you risked getting bashed. or worse ,
i know a plasterer who had to kill a guy ,because he had to, he had work stolen and he had 4 kids,the poacher was on his manor and wouldnt head the warning.....sh~t

be carefull and enjoy yourself.
Rum

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