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**LukeScotty** · 18-07-2007

Technique Training -

which is base in chesterfield(south yorkshire) offer many different types of courses. Such as crash courses for Air Conditioning, Refrigeration, Computer Aided Design more importantly Electrical Courses.

It would be great if we could get some feed back on the Electrical Courses offered by Technique Training.

Regards Luke

24-09-2007

I am just looking at doing this course... any feedback would be more than useful!

Darren · 13-10-2007

anyone done the Electrical course at Technique training??, if so how good was the training & is it worth doing ie....is there any jobs out there for newly qualified people.

I have been in the IT industry for about 19yrs & sick to the death of it, been in the office, office politics etc...

**LukeScotty** · 13-10-2007

Yep, I've been on it.

I'll give my honest opinion to you now after i've been in a job in the electrical industry for going 3 months now.

Technique training is a course which helps you get the quailfications, and helps prepare for the city and guilds exams rather good for the ammout of time you spend studying. They will also teach you the basics of electrics, and on the full 4 week course, there is 2 weeks of practical. It is basic if you compare it to the proper domestic house job. You know, ripping carpets up, moving furniture, chasing walls etc, which you aint going to get at Technique training. Have alook at the course details

Now, to finding a job!!!! I found it hard yes. I sent off about 350 letters off to companies in my area and out of my city. I got about 95% bad feedback saying there was no jobs. Had a few interviews but they wanted me to go on an appenctiship wage, which I turned down. Eventually and with some luck I got took on by a decent company who took a chance on me, there currently happy with me at the moment, but treating me as i know nothing, which i think is the perfect way to start. Because what you learn at technique training. It will not prepare you for the world outside. There is alot of correct terminology which you need to learn as you go on. Also electricians don't like these "courses for horses" so they ma take a dislike to you.

Because I couldnt get on the appenticship course at college, my last resort was to go on a intensive course. So I'd personally advise you to go on a college course before resorting to a 6 week course. You'd learn alot more.

Any questions, and i'm happy to answer them

Regards Luke (admin)

tufan · 16-10-2007

what about us who are older for appenticship????

wilber · 23-10-2007

There is no way on earth you can even pretend to be an electrician following such a short period of training. Electrical systems, wiring, bonding, calcs, polyphase systems, power factor and correction, circuit protection and why, regs and good old fashioned common sense through "time served" learning are the very basic requirements of any good electrician. Anyone considering a career in electrical installation and contracting should seriously consider spending money on such a short term course. IMO its useless and I'm not surprised that people who have taken this route are frowned upon. The C&G 2330 takes 3 years from scratch using p/t studies, then the NVQ level 3, then experience in testing and a further 2391 qualification in order to become approved. Think about it .... a few weeks intensive? No chance.

**LukeScotty** · 24-10-2007

I agree wilber, qualifications don't mean anything compared to 20 years experience, but when it comes to job interviews based on what they look for. Someone who's done a intensive course actually looks more qualified than someone with just experience.
The extensive courses arent a waste of time as you may think. Look at my situation, I couldn't get into college (3 colleges altogether) because they were popular and became full. People were queing at 7am to enrol at 1pm at colleges to get on the courses. So I went on an intensive course, tried for a job, stood out from the rest of other people who don't have anything. A company took a chance on me, and so far there pleased. I'm willing to learn, learning alot. Putting myself for the 2391. And i'm booming. In many years to come, with the way I'm going i'm sure I'll become a good electrician.

markaj · 02-04-2008

Hi all I recently attended the technique training course near Chesterfield, I am not brand new to electricity and completed a 14 week domestic installers course through work many moons ago, i have changed consumer units added lights and sockets to existing circuits, complete rewiring, installed underfloor heating, and fitted showers etc. I dont class myself as an electrician, more a domestic installer.

Now a bit about the course.

WEEK 1

The cost for a 4 week course is approx £3500, which includes all your course work exams tea coffee and buffet lunch and of course you first tool kit, which consists of a screwdriver set some side cutters pliers hammer tape and an AVI, not alot for three and a half grand,
The first week is spent in the classroom learning about Ohmes law and various electrical calculations, resistors in parallel and series etc etc, mainly DC but also touching on AC and 3 phase, near the end of the week you get to work on a circuit board putting all you have learnt into practice (dc only).

WEEK 2

This week is much better you get to work in bays wiring things up, normal practice applies make sure everything is dead and isolated (checks with avi etc)
The first task is a single switched light, once this is complete you carry out the relevant tests, continuity of cpc,insulation resistance, etc, next is a two way lighting circuit, then relevant testing, then an intermediate lighting circuit, then a ring main then a cooker circuit then a fused spur then add a new socket to the existing ring.
Once this is complete you carry out a full test of the system using a multitester and by calculations, filling out the schedule of test results as you go along.

Week 3

On the Monday you spend the day doing portable appliance testing theory and practical and complete a 20 question exam at the end of the day, very easy but extreamley boring.
Tuesday Wednesday and Thursday are spent with your head in the 17th edition book, and taking mock exams ready for the exam on Thursday afternoon, I referenced my book as we went along but found it took me longer to look for the refence i had written on little post it notes than it did looking though the books index etc,
I passed the exam ,
Friday is the start of the 2391 theory exam preperation.

Week 4

2391 theory all day Monday, Tuesday half day practical on 230 ac and 400v 3 phase then mock exams in the afternoon followed by another one as homework.
Wednesday, mock exams in the morning followed by the real deal at night, ( i think i nailed it still waiting for results)
Thursday consited of Part P modules 3-18, if you passed these then you could have a go at module 2, I passed all of them (pat myself on the back)
Friday Morning is dedicated to module one, with friday afternoon taking the exam i though this was going to be a piece of **** as were 2-18, but i was in for a wake up call, i was under the impression that all the answers could be found in the electricians guide, buggered if i could find them i had to keep raising my hand and asking for the relevant part, ie part M disability etc, and when you have 20 questions in 40 mins you dont want to be wasting time asking for documents, any way i achieved 18 out of 20 and passed.

Conclusion.

I know this looks like all they do is teach you to pass exams and to some extent this is true, but it also teaches you where to find out any information you may need, and to help you. It also teaches what is right and wrong, how to calculate voltage drop diversity, working out r1 r2, ip coding. I am not saying it makes you an electrician because it doesn't, i am not saying if you have not had any electrical experience or building experience whether you be capable of working as a domestic installer, but i do think it will give a good grounding and a good entry point.
It is quite expensive but no more so than any of the others i looked at, the instructors are all very well versed in the subjects they teach and the are a good laugh.
I am sorry if this is not enough detail for some people but all you have to do is ask me a question and i will answer it as best i can, anyway i need to give my fingers a rest now, (I have booked my 2391 practical exam for June) so good luck to me

Mark

02-04-2008

Quote:

Originally Posted by markaj

Hi all I recently attended the technique training course near Chesterfield, I am not brand new to electricity and completed a 14 week domestic installers course through work many moons ago, i have changed consumer units added lights and sockets to existing circuits, complete rewiring, installed underfloor heating, and fitted showers etc. I dont class myself as an electrician, more a domestic installer.

Now a bit about the course.

WEEK 1

The cost for a 4 week course is approx £3500, which includes all your course work exams tea coffee and buffet lunch and of course you first tool kit, which consists of a screwdriver set some side cutters pliers hammer tape and an AVI, not alot for three and a half grand,
The first week is spent in the classroom learning about Ohmes law and various electrical calculations, resistors in parallel and series etc etc, mainly DC but also touching on AC and 3 phase, near the end of the week you get to work on a circuit board putting all you have learnt into practice (dc only).

WEEK 2

This week is much better you get to work in bays wiring things up, normal practice applies make sure everything is dead and isolated (checks with avi etc)
The first task is a single switched light, once this is complete you carry out the relevant tests, continuity of cpc,insulation resistance, etc, next is a two way lighting circuit, then relevant testing, then an intermediate lighting circuit, then a ring main then a cooker circuit then a fused spur then add a new socket to the existing ring.
Once this is complete you carry out a full test of the system using a multitester and by calculations, filling out the schedule of test results as you go along.

Week 3

On the Monday you spend the day doing portable appliance testing theory and practical and complete a 20 question exam at the end of the day, very easy but extreamley boring.
Tuesday Wednesday and Thursday are spent with your head in the 17th edition book, and taking mock exams ready for the exam on Thursday afternoon, I referenced my book as we went along but found it took me longer to look for the refence i had written on little post it notes than it did looking though the books index etc,
I passed the exam ,
Friday is the start of the 2391 theory exam preperation.

Week 4

2391 theory all day Monday, Tuesday half day practical on 230 ac and 400v 3 phase then mock exams in the afternoon followed by another one as homework.
Wednesday, mock exams in the morning followed by the real deal at night, ( i think i nailed it still waiting for results)
Thursday consited of Part P modules 3-18, if you passed these then you could have a go at module 2, I passed all of them (pat myself on the back)
Friday Morning is dedicated to module one, with friday afternoon taking the exam i though this was going to be a piece of **** as were 2-18, but i was in for a wake up call, i was under the impression that all the answers could be found in the electricians guide, buggered if i could find them i had to keep raising my hand and asking for the relevant part, ie part M disability etc, and when you have 20 questions in 40 mins you dont want to be wasting time asking for documents, any way i achieved 18 out of 20 and passed.

Conclusion.

I know this looks like all they do is teach you to pass exams and to some extent this is true, but it also teaches you where to find out any information you may need, and to help you. It also teaches what is right and wrong, how to calculate voltage drop diversity, working out r1 r2, ip coding. I am not saying it makes you an electrician because it doesn't, i am not saying if you have not had any electrical experience or building experience whether you be capable of working as a domestic installer, but i do think it will give a good grounding and a good entry point.
It is quite expensive but no more so than any of the others i looked at, the instructors are all very well versed in the subjects they teach and the are a good laugh.
I am sorry if this is not enough detail for some people but all you have to do is ask me a question and i will answer it as best i can, anyway i need to give my fingers a rest now, (I have booked my 2391 practical exam for June) so good luck to me

Mark

Mark, let me get this straight

you are saying you sat the 2391 theory exam on a wednesday night?

how?

the exam is on a thursday evening, about 5 or 6 times a year

what date did you sit the exam?

have you got the day wrong?

markaj · 02-04-2008

Yes sorry Shakey it was a thursday you are quite right, trouble is trying to remember everything you have done in a short span of time , i am just trying to explain what you have to do on these four week intense courses, i thought the exam was going to be worse than it was. fingers crossed i passed

Mark