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Discuss please help im new on here any advice welcome thankyou to all that help!!!! in the Electrical Forum, General Electrical Forum at Electricians Forums Discussion Boards; i have reciently done a 2392-10 inspection and testing course. i have purchased a set of fluke 1651b testers which came with a new installations cert sheets. pack. if i ...
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    Default please help im new on here any advice welcome thankyou to all that help!!!!

    i have reciently done a 2392-10 inspection and testing course.

    i have purchased a set of fluke 1651b testers which came with a new installations cert sheets. pack.

    if i do a private job to wire a kitchen i can either put a new cooker circuit, kitchen ring and run a new lighting circuit for 10 spot lights, into the existing board as there are three spare ways,

    or i could put a "garage unit" fuseboard in and new tails to it and just put MY new circuits in it.

    what is best, and am i allowed to do??

    im not niceic registered.

    i have 17th edition, 2330 level 2. part p. 2392-10 inspection and testing.

    more notes:

    the fuseboard in the property is a 17th board everything else was wired two years ago.


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    Default Re: please help im new on here any advice welcome thankyou to all that help!!!!

    Hi if you aren't witrh ELECSA NICEIC or any of the schemes, you will have to notify the work you are doing to your LABC, which normally costs between £100 and £200.

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    if the wiring is less than 3 years old and is up to regs why would you need to change the kitchen ring ? and if there is 3 spare ways i can't see the sense in fitting a new enclosure save yourself and the customer cash and utilise what you have. put if your not on a scheme then you actually have no right to do the job without as rockers said notifying building control
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    Default Re: please help im new on here any advice welcome thankyou to all that help!!!!

    as rocker stated unfortunately not, most works would require you to either notify building control for every job and pay the fees or join a competent persons scheme (about £400 per year)
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    you say you have part p? if your not with nic who are you with?

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    Default Re: please help im new on here any advice welcome thankyou to all that help!!!!

    house rewired bar the kitchen. there are two kitchens in the property. so i can certify with the fluke sheets i have? but obv i also need to ring building control and show them?
    can i add to the fuseboard without having to test the whole property again??

    thats why i though garage unit would avoid all complications. as i only want responsibality of MY work

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    part p course done at college 1day

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    ah right, if i were you i would use existing board as putting a henly block to split the tails to the new board would involve pulling the main fuse..... (getting council involved might pick up on this and you have to call dno to pull ) you only have to test your work and issue a cert for what you have done

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    minor works or eic cert depends if your modding or putting in new circuits

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    sorry mate but can i ask how long you went to college for.....?
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    i am unsure as i work on council contracts and have an electrical supervisor. i install and test the job. every job i run cooker, shower, kitchen ring, 10mm bonding gas and water, install b.room and kit fans, somkes and a heat. and fuseboard change. however he top copys the cert and is the niceic holder.

    every job i change the board and test all MY new circuits and anything existing.

    thats why im unsure IF I DONT CHANGE THE BOARD like in this case for instance, do i have to re-test all circuits in it, if i add to it?

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    Why may i ask? to sparky1502

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    sorry mate just was unsure how qualified you are. as you can imagine we do get quite a few lads fresh out the gate like newley qualified having undertaken a quickie course if you know want i mean...not ment to offend.... as for your question i think adding them to the original board and testing your circuits would be ok but maybe it would be wise to price and complete a full pir perhaps
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    in which case you would only need to test the work you are resposible for and anything minor could be certed but anything requiring an eic would need labc fees or partp scheme membership
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    Default Re: please help im new on here any advice welcome thankyou to all that help!!!!

    im 22 but been on council contracts, since i started, ive started testing 3 months ago properly, for a new job i started on price. same work day in day out. so obv i dont fill out the proper certs (niceic) i just fill out a printout sheet, and test the whole property, electrical supervisor for the company i sub direct to writes them out.

    my question is, do i have to be niceic to sign it off. and if i add to the existing board, do i have to test all the other circuits in it.

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