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Quick question

scfc_nath — Tue, 07 Sep 2010 16:01:19 GMT

Hi guys i have recently passed the city and guilds 2330 level 2 and i have just started the level 3 diploma. I have an oppurtunity to work and apprentice at the michelin but i was told that i shuld put electrical techncian rather than an electrican on my covering letter because that is what they are looking for. I was wondering what the difference between the two are and can i work as a techncian with the certifcate i have and am tryin to gain now sorry about the length of the question thanks.

yet another 17th edition question before i book my course

fingz999 — Tue, 07 Sep 2010 09:00:10 GMT

i finnish my 2330 lv2 in december but due to the fact i wont be able to do my 2356 if i start my lv3 in jan i am thinking im better off finnishing my 2330 lv2 doing my 17th getting employed with a spark if i can find something in shropshire that is and then when they sort the new course out doing my 2357 in one and hoping i can skip a load of it due to having my 2330 lv2 but ive heard the 17th course is changing next year so what happens if i take the 17th edition now will it be a case of next year im going to have to take another exam at additional cost if so am i better waiting till then to do my 17th?

Advice please

Rikio — Mon, 06 Sep 2010 09:08:18 GMT

Ok i have been in signalling on the railway for 10 years and have extensive installation experience and i am after training to become a fully quailfied electrician. What paths are there to do this and which is the best route. I have had a lot of training within the railway but sadly nothing in reguards to becoming a electrician.

Thanks in advance

career change

Han_av18 — Sun, 05 Sep 2010 15:06:32 GMT

Hi, Im looking into training to become an electrician. I need to do it part time as I have other commitments which restrict me from doing a full time course or even an apprenticeship. I have been researching alot of information but am baffled about what everyone has said you need to become an electrician. If someone could tell me whats needed to become a qulified electrician it would be greatly appreicative. Also if anyone knows of any part time courses I could do to help me gain a qualification. Ive rang my local college and they werent very helpful IMHO and all they suggested was apprenticeships (unable to afford bills etc on apprentice wage)

Help electrical students!!!!

zoo786 — Sun, 05 Sep 2010 13:08:50 GMT

hi there guys
i m c&g level 3 student like me there r hundreds of other students here.
i m wondering if senior and other electrician can point us too any good books + web sites ( for electrician ) to help us improve our knowledge and skills that will be great help for all of us students and peoples who r in this industry. many thanks

Help with my sons college assignment ( I am not academic) (thick) 1 Question only

ICE — Sun, 05 Sep 2010 11:20:46 GMT

Hi Guys,

Although I know the answer to what I am going to ask I just don't know how to explain it in a way that would be understood so can any of you bright sparks help my son out.

The question is:

Using Ohm's law, give the definition of the standard unit of power. ( showing any workings)

Cheers in advance

ATG Training

MattMoore — Sat, 04 Sep 2010 18:05:29 GMT

Evening all,
I'm looking to complete a Part P course for the kitchen installations that I do through out the year. ATG Training are reasonably close to me, and I have contacted them about the 5 day domestic installers course that they do, this is a VRQ and includes EAL registration.
I am looking to supplement this course with their 2382 and 2391 courses, as I would like to move more towards becoming a sparks, and getting out of the workshop I currently run.
What are your views on firstly ATG Training, and secondly the courses I have chosen to do?

Thanks

Matt

Intuder alarm & cctv training any advice appreciated?

covert — Sat, 04 Sep 2010 15:46:54 GMT

Hi Folks

I was wandering what your opinions are on alarm & cctv training for those who are not electricians or security engineers?

I was looking at these:
Intruder Alarm and Access Control Training Course, FAS Funded, Free, Jobseekers

Intruder Alarm Courses

How hard would it be afterwards to go out and operate in a small way say domestic market?
Any advice appreciated Thanks

BUMP

Preparation for Approved.

TexDangerfield — Sat, 04 Sep 2010 13:25:21 GMT

Hello there, this is my first post, I kinda stumbled apon this site when googling an electrical query hehe. I'm now ready to begin the steps to gaining my Approved Grade, I was just curious on what to expect, there are some aspects of my trade that I'm a little rusty on, so I was curious on what to expect or what I should probably revise on.

Would appreciate the advice!

New Career Advice - Help Needed Please!

jamesd — Fri, 03 Sep 2010 19:41:45 GMT

Hi All,
First post, so hi everyone. The forums are really helpful so hopefully you won�t mind a few newbie questions!
In a nutshell. 25. Live N London. Career change from an electrical related industry, but it�s safe to say I am the quintessential beginner. Wanted to train up and be employed/ self-employed electrician for a long time. Timing is right, finally can commit.
A short intensive training course is the preferred route for me..... but do, employers, customers, NICEIC, JIB etc?? Has anyone ever been known to look through the C&G certificates and other qualifications and see a �short-cut� route? (All due respect to said training companies and trainees, but albeit they�re expensive, am I right in seeing that as the sacrifice for a faster progression?)

I�d value an industry professional�s opinion, on whether I have the right idea and/or whether I am going to go wrong somewhere.
� Train with a private course provider e.g. OLCI, Able Skills. Ensuring the core certs and quals are covered (from what I�ve seen this is approx 7 � 12 months, achieving; C&G 2330 lvl 2 & 3, 2356 NVQ 3, C&G 2382 (17th ed.), 2391 and Part P � minimum requirements)
� Too old to be an apprentice, so should I work as an electrician�s mate or be the extra pair of hands anywhere I can (earning as my skills increase) for the duration and a few months after completing the certificates (until I have achieved NVQ 3) I�ve been told it�s not compulsory when doing a course but I reckon it�s the �better safe than sorry� approach?
Hopefully at that point (or earlier if advised it�s possible!) I can set up as self employed, and continue to advance.
NOW there�s the new C&G 2357; should I wait for a course on that next year? Is it better/worse for someone in my position? Will I waste time starting a 2330 level 2 course when the 3rd could become redundant???? How hard will it be getting AM2? Is the only downside waiting for it to start.
I don�t know a sparky to ask these questions, and don�t want to bother a local sparky with the questions as I hope to approach them for work in the future and make a better 1st impression.
Sorry for such a long post, hope someone can offer some advice.
Many thanks.

2391-10 june 10th

brucelee — Fri, 03 Sep 2010 12:22:44 GMT

hi guys
I just wanted to ask as any of you who took the june exam had any written confirmation or your certificates yet cheers

2391 results july 22

iceman — Thu, 02 Sep 2010 11:17:00 GMT

cant be long now till we get the results for july 22 exam, it'll be 45 days on the 6th sept anybody know if the results would of been posted yet on the wellard garden yet??? :cool:

What to do next?

johnnyc — Thu, 02 Sep 2010 10:42:14 GMT

I did a City and guild L3 course at a local college a couple of years ago. I completed the course but didn�t progress further.

The year I went was the first year of a new venture for the college called it's 'construction academy'. There was a total lack of funding and the whole thing was a bit of a shambles.

Classes would often be sent home due to a lack of equipment. 2 tutors left during the course of the year leaving an overlap where there was no tutor for several weeks. Even when there was they would often not turn up. The students wouldn�t be told this before hand and we would make a wasted journey.

The upshot of this was that I never felt that I should have passed the course. I don't feel I gained enough knowledge from the level 2 to progress onto level 3. The practical exams where a joke, they didn�t fall short of cheating. I don't think anyone actually failed. Tutors where also present in the online exam�s and give hints and help!

So now I am in a position where I would like to continue with my training but I don't know what to do. I really don�t want to have to redo the whole Level 2. I am prepared to put the time in going back over the level 2 stuff but there is only so much I can do on my own as I didn�t really learn some bits of it in the first place.

Any advice on where to go next with this would be much appreciated.

Cheers.

Question about my authorisations.

crewb666 — Thu, 02 Sep 2010 09:42:50 GMT

Hi all, Quick question for you all, i used to be a meter installer for western power on single phase meters. Im applying for a new role doing the same. I have checked my authorisations and i have a lvco, which i understand and also a MSP authorisation??? cant find the definition for MSP anywhere.
my authorisation reads
Non operational Authorisations
Single phase restricted to periodic meter changes only

MSP- authorised to install, wire, test and commission whole current single phase metering.

Does anyone understand what authorisation this is? is it equvilent to PTO or MOP? any help on this will be much appreiciated.

Thanks

Should I do the 2330 via night school??

dan_sparks — Wed, 01 Sep 2010 19:20:21 GMT

Hi all
i have done a course with trade qualified and have 2382, 2377, part p etc.
I have no exp, and cant find work.
Would it be worth me forking out for the 2330 via night school?
i want to be fully qualified and am scared i will forget what i have learnt if i dont carry out any work?

thanks