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It's not the tampering that comes into play, though. It's the reason for it.

Was more of a comical remark not a statement as to the legality of the situe' .... it's like anything, you can break into someones house to rescue them in say a fire condition where as normally breaking and entering is frowned upon :)
 
You did the right thing, with the right intentions of saving life and property. The network guy was just doing what all network guys seem to do, overstating there own importance. You are probably more qualified than him anyway............And as for some of the more nervous members on the forum telling you to be careful the DNO doesn't prosecute! :tearsofjoy::tearsofjoy::tearsofjoy:
Show me a sparks who hasn't broken a seal or pulled a main fuse and I'll show you a Liar
 
Spot on.
..and I'm sure I'd isolate before messing about with live tails.
I'm presuming, if immediate supply was required, that the owner got by with two phases and limited single phase supplies....one thing is for sure, that switch fuse needs replacing.
An earthing nut, or equivalent, wouldn't go amiss on that pyro, either.
Exactly what I have done and what I plan on doing. Best I could do on a Saturday with what I had on my van.
 
IMO OP did the right thing.

E@WR states no working live. So that voids the cut live cable & tape up or Henley block it.

Your duty is the safety of
1. Persons
2. Livestock
3. Property
In that order.

So with people in the building it was safest option to pull the DNo fuse imo.
 
You did the right thing, with the right intentions of saving life and property. The network guy was just doing what all network guys seem to do, overstating there own importance. You are probably more qualified than him anyway............And as for some of the more nervous members on the forum telling you to be careful the DNO doesn't prosecute! :tearsofjoy::tearsofjoy::tearsofjoy:
Show me a sparks who hasn't broken a seal or pulled a main fuse and I'll show you a Liar

I beg to differ, with older meters and cutouts it was rarely contended as it was actually hard to prove unless you admitted it and it was recorded, with modern smart meters now there has been cases where the DNO has submitted a fine normally to the home owner due to the meters been powered down in conjunction with missing meter seals... I know because it happened to a mate, he didn't like the quote from his energy supplier to drop the tails out so he got a sparky mate to do it (not me) and upgrade the board too, because he enquired about a cost and because the smart meter registered a power down while no network issues were present he got a knock on the door and they inspected his meter... he was asked to provide the Electricians details but refused as it was his friend .. he as the house owner was subsequently handed a hefty fine.... it does happen but only when they have enough evidence to proceed and issue a fine.

Smart meters now log times and dates of any power outs, that is half the evidence they need the rest just needs the correct circumstances for them to suspect it has been done, in my mates case he rang for a quote, had he not got a mate in I would suspect he would have passed on the details and shown them an invoice for work done..
 
Spot on.
..and I'm sure I'd isolate before messing about with live tails.
I'm presuming, if immediate supply was required, that the owner got by with two phases and limited single phase supplies....one thing is for sure, that switch fuse needs replacing.
An earthing nut, or equivalent, wouldn't go amiss on that pyro, either.
Never had earth nuts in those days Mate all down to good workmanship.
 
I beg to differ, with older meters and cutouts it was rarely contended as it was actually hard to prove unless you admitted it and it was recorded, with modern smart meters now there has been cases where the DNO has submitted a fine normally to the home owner due to the meters been powered down in conjunction with missing meter seals... I know because it happened to a mate, he didn't like the quote from his energy supplier to drop the tails out so he got a sparky mate to do it (not me) and upgrade the board too, because he enquired about a cost and because the smart meter registered a power down while no network issues were present he got a knock on the door and they inspected his meter... he was asked to provide the Electricians details but refused as it was his friend .. he as the house owner was subsequently handed a hefty fine.... it does happen but only when they have enough evidence to proceed and issue a fine.

Smart meters now log times and dates of any power outs, that is half the evidence they need the rest just needs the correct circumstances for them to suspect it has been done, in my mates case he rang for a quote, had he not got a mate in I would suspect he would have passed on the details and shown them an invoice for work done..

Been personally pulling main fuses and cutting seals for over 30 years. Now my company pulls and cut 100s per year. Never had so much as hint of a problem from the DNO.......I think the subbing out of meter reading probably makes it even less likely of a prosecution or a fine!
 
Been personally pulling main fuses and cutting seals for over 30 years. Now my company pulls and cut 100s per year. Never had so much as hint of a problem from the DNO.......I think the subbing out of meter reading probably makes it even less likely of a prosecution or a fine!
There are areas where you can legally as an electrician cut tails, seal them with temp' seals and notify the DNO, I never said it was common for a prosecution or fine just saying that now with modern tech you may see a rise in it, I still agree it will still be rare given the number of times it's done.
 
There are areas where you can legally as an electrician cut tails, seal them with temp' seals and notify the DNO, I never said it was common for a prosecution or fine just saying that now with modern tech you may see a rise in it, I still agree it will still be rare given the number of times it's done.

I'm not talking about the times you can legally do it I'm talking about the day to day stuff in the real world where you do it to change a ccu. It happens 100s of times a day. I doubt there will be an increase in the zero amount of prosecutions there are now with the increased deregulation.
 
It should be;

Your duty is the safety of
1. Yourself
2. Persons
3. Livestock
4. Property
In that order.

Just saying :)
So he pulled the fuse no injury to him or anyone else, or any pets brought to the dinner, in doing what he did with a little experience, not only did he save all those I have described and in doing so he lastly saved the building from going up in flames.
 
It should be;

Your duty is the safety of
1. Yourself
2. Persons
3. Livestock
4. Property
In that order.

Just saying :)

Quite.

With respect to the DNO's I could understand then getting a bit annoyed if meter seals are tampered with but with respect to the main fuse ..... It doesn't make sense.

Jobs worth springs to mind
 
Quite.

With respect to the DNO's I could understand then getting a bit annoyed if meter seals are tampered with but with respect to the main fuse ..... It doesn't make sense.

Jobs worth springs to mind
With respect again Murdoch, I would have thought that a cut seal would be the last thing on the DNOs mind would be a busted seal, it the place had burnt down, but you're right they probably would have had a bit of a moan, jobsworth is the right description, you can imagine what would have happened if Mick the Meter man had been called, have to phone the office to get permission to open my tool box/bag, then get a method statement, Permit to work and all the other carp he would need to pull a fuse, meanwhile whilst all that was going on the loose cables had started to ignite, you know it made sense, pull it out and argue later.
 
So he pulled the fuse no injury to him or anyone else, or any pets brought to the dinner, in doing what he did with a little experience, not only did he save all those I have described and in doing so he lastly saved the building from going up in flames.

Not suggesting he shouldn't of, I wasn't there. But as with all things with safety in mind, safety of yourself comes first. You not much use to anyone else's safety, if your dead or injured.
 

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