13 Amp 240V socket installation in disabled toilet

[leonjmac]

We are taking over a building after commissioning and I found this install of which a macerator is plugged in to. I wouldn’t install this way and the glands and metal clad covers are not even fitted properly so the IP rating is non-existent. I have to tackle them on the install but looking through the regs I can't find any info. I know that Zone 2 for basin is above it but nothing for below.
Just looking for some advice as surely this can't be good practice.

 

[LeeH]

Zones only apply in special locations.

I'm presuming there isn't a bath or a shower in there.

Either way a sink has no zone unless it's in one due its location.

 

[Plonker 3]

As above, unless there is something fitted in the room that makes it a special location.

 

[Essex_]

As above. But any installation must take into account the environment in which it is to be fitted. For me, looking at the photo I would say not ideal and change for an IP65 rated socket.

 

[leonjmac]

Thanks for the feedback good to know. I will go back and just challenge on the install quality then. There is no shower or bath fitted.

Having worked in the food industry on production lines we would hard wired the appliance and fit IP65 in wet areas as already mentioned.

 

[telectrix]

diabolical. that mop is bloody filthy.

 

[LankyWill]

That conduit is appalling looks awful. Should of ran it in black plastic. Could you not chop back into the corner then have the flexes trailing to the sink in some zip tie anchors. Just a thought.

 

[LeeH]

Really!?

 

[UNG]

That conduit is appalling looks awful. Should of ran it in black plastic. Could you not chop back into the corner then have the flexes trailing to the sink in some zip tie anchors. Just a thought.

So what would you use if the spec said Galv conduit?

 

[7029 dave]

Galv for me anyway.

 

[LankyWill]

So what would you use if the spec said Galv conduit?

looks like there wasn't any spec by the state of it. I would have put my suggestion to the designer and gone from there. I would still install galv but just a bit neater.

 

[nickblake]

What hasnt been pointed out is that a macerator should be installed on an unswitched fused spur

 

[Leesparkykent]

What hasnt been pointed out is that a macerator should be installed on an unswitched fused spur

Looks like a moulded plug to me, Chopping the plug off could void the manufacturers guarantee.

 

[R G]

Terrible , disgusting even , no soap in sight....tut tut ..

 

[UNG]

Looks like a moulded plug to me, Chopping the plug off could void the manufacturers guarantee.

How does chopping off the plug void the manufacturers warranty if that is what is needed to install it correctly

 

[Leesparkykent]

How does chopping off the plug void the manufacturers warranty if that is what is needed to install it correctly

If the manufactures instructions say "the warranty will be void if you cut off the moulded plug top" then if you go ahead and cut it off the warranty will be void.

 

[shanky887614]

If the manufactures instructions say "the warranty will be void if you cut off the moulded plug top" then if you go ahead and cut it off the warranty will be void.

you can still return it as long as you haven't caused the fail and they will have to fix/replace it in the first year

 

[TJ Anderson]

you can still return it as long as you haven't caused the fail and they will have to fix/replace it in the first year

It can work against you. Customer of mine had extractor hood motor control fail within 3 months. As plug had been cut (I cut it and hardwired to existing flex out fed by 3A FCU above worktop). Manufacturer said it had been interfered with and warranty was void.

 

[shanky887614]

It can work against you. Customer of mine had extractor hood motor control fail within 3 months. As plug had been cut (I cut it and hardwired to existing flex out fed by 3A FCU above worktop). Manufacturer said it had been interfered with and warranty was void.

under the sales of goods act they must accept the returns

 

[UNG]

It can work against you. Customer of mine had extractor hood motor control fail within 3 months. As plug had been cut (I cut it and hardwired to existing flex out fed by 3A FCU above worktop). Manufacturer said it had been interfered with and warranty was void.

Had this one with one of my mates houses, manufacturers service man tried to use the void warranty bit when they came to fix a cooker hood this was because he couldn't safely isolate it by removing the plug from the socket as instructed by his company happened to be there when he appeared so I disconnected it and put a temporary plug on it while he fixed it. This is not the only occasion I have had this but highlights how a H&S issue is being used to refuse service or repair of an item wired and connected in a recognised way and giving the customer the customer no options on a no cost repair