1st fix protection from plaster

[taranjit singh]

Good afternoon ladies and gents...
I was talking to my plasterer and he mentioned a plastic cover for back boxes to pop on after the first fix.i will be working with this plasterer regularly so i want to make both our lives easier.

Do you kind people have any ideas as to what they are called as he can't quite remember.
All i have come across are the yoozybox,and the cardboard blank it..
Any help would be greatly appreciated

 

[Ian1981]

I just use duck tape or aluminium sticky tape and tape over the boxes

 

[Specialist]

Sounds like a blank plate, screws on the front of flush fittings until plastering is finished & then gets removed, cleaned & re used on the next job.
Does a good job of keeping wires & boxes clear. Available from any electrical wholesalers, 1 tip: buy spare screws for them.

 

[onions1066]

You mean yoozy boxes?

 

[onions1066]

 

[onions1066]

you mean a yoozy box?

 

[Rpa07]

So they sit over your back box so the plasterer can spread muck up to the edge and you cut it away afterwards? Would you put a blank on with 75mm 3.5s?

 

[onions1066]

No you just need standard socket screws no blank plate needed.

 

[taranjit singh]

Ahh ok i suppose thats the gaffer tape makes sense,i suppose i cld try that...


Its not the yoozy box,nor the blanking screw plate.he said it just clips in the same as the cardboard blank it.
It allows him to skim straight over and when it comes to the 2nd fix you just pop it out clean it and reuse it.

Thanks for the replies much appreciated

 

[plantpot]

Use a decent plasterer that takes his time cleaning the boxes out.

 

[Leesparkykent]

There is no way I would want them skimmed over.

 

[gazdkw82]

I'd be interested to know what he actually means

 

[stummish]

I'm not sure about these yoozyboxes. It makes it hard for the plasterer to skim the wall flat, as he has to skim around the box. Granted a good plasterer would be annoyed but could still do a good job, and granted all they do is stick brown ---- to walls, cut our cables, ruin our marks... you know what I will fit them!

I'll stick to packaging tape over the boxes. Cheap, does the job, and can use it to tape the plasterers mouth shut when he starts complaining!

 

[telectrix]

some time ago, in the reign of the 16th, we did a complete rewire. 1st fixed whole house and 2nd fixed kitchen ( so they'd have a working kitchen and power to do restoration work). for financial reasons the 2nd fix of the rest of the house was delayed by 3 months. when this 2nd fix was completed, 1 RFC was found to have no continuity r1,r2,rN, after about 30 minutes of investigation, i noticed there was no socket in a place where i thought i'd allowed for one. out comes the magnet to find a double back box, filled, skimmed, and wallpapered over. cut the decor to find the box containing 2 perfect virgin 2.5mm coiled inside.

 

[Grant webber]

If he cant plaster round a back box you need a better spread. Usually a bit of plaster round a back box is fine just use a stanley knife to cut the excess plaster back. But covering every box is not something iv ever done.

 

[taranjit singh]

To be honest we are goin to be working together regularly so just wanted to make each others life easier,to be honest he is a hot spread..

 

[Ian1981]

It's the boarders you want to worry about when they push up and trap your down light cables under the plaster boards!

 

[1Justin]

So it works this way..
Crappy boarders who don't care make a pigs ear of their work and leave gaps the size of your thumb round the boxes because they can't be arsed to cut accurately. Plasterer comes and plasters over, but some plaster ends up inside the boxes.
Because you couldn't get there the day that the plaster was green to trim back, the strength of the set plaster when hard is much greater than the strength of the bond to the powdery edge of the board.
Result is that even careful carving back with sharp stanley knife on hard plaster causes many areas to break away, leaving big gaps round the boxes back to the original PB edge. Much repair work will take you ages with wall filler and trowel. Boarders say not their fault, plasterer likewise.

 

[7029 dave]

I have never covered any of my boxes. If he is a good plasterer he will manage, anyway I like digging a piece of muck out of the box.

 

[Ian1981]

Depends on the builder as well.
Our company do a lot of new builds for the major house builders so we are required to tape the boxes.
However if boarders cover our boxes or somehow manage to loose our cables etc, then we back charge the builder/boarders if there's any holes caused by us finding cables/boxes.
So it rarely happens because the boarders get their arse kicked of the site manager.

Also work for a big builder on a lot of refurb jobs both commercial and domestic and they don't give a sh*t and constantly board over and trap cables but it's always OUR problem apparently!