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Anything involving insurance companies and "discounts" is bound to end up in a rip off! I can't wait 'till next year when I hit 50,my car insurance is £500 a year I've never made a claim and it's just a rip off yet there are loads saying save 80% for drivers over 50,some chance,same with part P when it first came out they said all sorts had to be done by a part P electrician and have paperwork to state this yet nobody went around counting the fittings in every house did they?so long as you have an EICR if you sell the property then fine.Certificates are all well and good if they are done properly,we had our council house done earlier this year and no way was it done properly,it took about 30 minutes,he took off no fronts from anything didn't check the bonding in fact he did very little,despite clear evidence that alterations had been done since the last inspection.I am all for safety but things have to be done for reasons of safety not just as an excuse to make money or use as a get out clause.Insurance companies are well known for using any little thing to get out of not paying,for example did you know that if you fit alloy wheels to your vehicle and don't tell them then they can and will refuse to pay out in the event of a claim,It happened to someone I know.
 
MerlinGremlin your what price do you put on safety has to be tempered with the potential hazard and risk that may be present to suggest all the homes in the UK need annual inspections is just way over the top

Another way to look at your statement
What price do you put on fear, the fear that something may go wrong, that you need to buy that maintenance contract because you might just might need it as that salesman that cold calls turns the fear screw and hopes you crack. You could replace "What price do you put on fear" with " What price do you put on safety" it's all the same
 
What would the scheme cost anyway? Not just what the householders pay, but costs for setting up the regulatory and enforcement regime. Inspections presumably do nothing for safety unless there's mandatory rectification of issues found, so that would need to be fleshed out as well.
 
There’s no point adding flesh to what is essentially a horse that’s already been flogged to death. It will just stink more as time goes on.

It’s a madcap idea with no other purpose other than it’s an easy money maker.

It crops up here about once a year like a hardy annual.
 
At the end of the day the idea of a 20% check every year is a silly one, it won't happen and never will just plain daft, as bobby robson once said, as daft as a brush lol
 
I've got to fuel in my car somehow and my porsche cayenne is abit thirsty due to the turbo.

You should get together with the guy that was asking about I&T mobile buildings a while back.

You drive past in one direction while the building is heading in the opposite direction.

This subject crops up time and again, every time the OP gets slated by those with common sense.
 
Can I come and do your EICR? I'm sure I can find all sorts of pretty stickers to stick on each and every switch, socket and lamp.
I reckon I could rustle up a box of single pole RCBOs for the remedials just for you :30:
 
I’m going to take the RCBO’s out as you well know. I need to do it before I can fit the Ellison OCB to the lounge lights. Although I imagine Pink Minx will have something to say about the new light switch.
 
Just in case there’s a fault on the UV coil neutral.









That’s got bog all to do with it.
But the comment fits in with the rest of the Male Bovine Excrement in this thread.
 
Ok but if there is a fault on the neutral then surely you want the RCBO to be detecting that fault and disconnect the live instead of disconnecting the fault yeah? That's how it's supposed to work isn't it, detect a fault in one wire and then disconnect another wire but not the one with the fault on it.
 
Ok but if there is a fault on the neutral then surely you want the RCBO to be detecting that fault and disconnect the live instead of disconnecting the fault yeah? That's how it's supposed to work isn't it, detect a fault in one wire and then disconnect another wire but not the one with the fault on it.

Something like that.

If people wonder why I don't like RCBO's, Dave's just given the answer.
 

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