Could This Be A Fused Neutral?

[SparkyMcsparkface]

Hi, came across this today, double width cutout, never seen it before. Not sure if it could be fused on the neutral or whether I am worrying with no need. Any advice appreciated. (Haven't pulled the cutout obviously, even though it isn't sealed - I have a feeling it might be too stiff to pull out anyway, maybe....)

 

[jackhammerJIM]

I doubt it will be a fused neutral . never seen one in a dno cutout . Its a larger cutout to accommodate the 2 cables , 2nd cable feeding adjacent property .

 

[SparkyMcsparkface]

Thanks. I had considered the possibility that it was just about accommodating the outgoing supply but want to be sure. Anyone else concur (or differ?)

 

[7029 dave]

No that will be L AND N in there, I have seen this type of cut out and the N is a dummy, just blank, 60 amp baby too.

 

[Octopus]

Did you see this on an EICR today or yesterday by any chance?

YOU DID! I've just seen this picture on another forum!

 

[SparkyMcsparkface]

Must be the client I guess

 

[Octopus]

In the Cambridge area?

 

[Octopus]

He'll be on the phone any second asking you to resubmit the EICR as satisfactory - the service head is outside the remit of BS7671 and not something you can "improve"

 

[SparkyMcsparkface]

Might be What other forum?

 

[Octopus]

He's been advised to call you to resubmit the EICR as satisfactory........

 

[7029 dave]

Your EICR stops at the out going tails from the CU, all DNO equipment, plus metering, has nothing to do with the installation.

 

[SparkyMcsparkface]

Agreed that it falls outside the fixed wiring installation that I am testing, but the Schedule Of Inspections requires me to record an outcome of inspection on the condition of the service head.

 

[7029 dave]

Agreed that it falls outside the fixed wiring installation that I am testing, but the Schedule Of Inspections requires me to record an outcome of inspection on the condition of the service head.

Understand, but that is only a visual check, because thats all you can do.

 

[snowhead]

but the Schedule Of Inspections requires me to record an outcome of inspection on the condition of the service head.

It's plastic and apparently in good condition with wires in and out.

 

[SparkyMcsparkface]

....and with a form factor I've not seen before that I am concerned from might contain a fused neutral. I suppose the question is whether it's an "apparent deficiency" or not (ref the notes on the condition report for the person producing it).

Dave, agree it can only be a visual check....but let's say that visual check showed a cracked fuseholder and exposed live parts, we wouldn't hesitate to code that C1, right? So it's reasonable to code the supply head based on the visual check?

 

[SparkyMcsparkface]

(What I'd really mostly like by the way is input from the experience of others about whether there is any real probability of this being a fused neutral, that may be the quickest way to put this to bed, cheers.)

 

[7029 dave]

....and with a form factor I've not seen before that I am concerned from might contain a fused neutral. I suppose the question is whether it's an "apparent deficiency" or not (ref the notes on the condition report for the person producing it).

Dave, agree it can only be a visual check....but let's say that visual check showed a cracked fuseholder and exposed live parts, we wouldn't hesitate to code that C1, right? So it's reasonable to code the supply head based on the visual check?

No, if you found that situation, a call to the DNO would be the way forward, it would be an cat A exposed live parts, they would be out in 3hrs. So how could you give THE installation unsatisfactory.? As I said it is not part of your remit.

 

[Octopus]

I think all my reports from now on will state outgoing meter tails is the start of the installation to avoid such fiascos

Your client could lose their sale because of the iet inability to write the regs properly which is unacceptable imho

 

[SparkyMcsparkface]

Dave, again I come back to the point that box 1.2 "Condition of service head" is there to be filled in with one of the designated outcomes.

 

[Octopus]

The condition of the service head, looking at your photo, looks ok to me.... It's not damaged.