Easiest way to attach 2.5mm twin and Earth to breeze block

[Gringoking88]

Hi all,

The title says it all really, I am just wondering what method those of you with more experience use to surface mount cable to hard breeze block, the kind where your nails either bend of just fly off lol??????

In my case, I need to mount cable to an unplastered garage (internally) made out of breeze blocks for sockets and lighting.

Cheers,

Martin

 

[Simonslimline]

These will help.


https://www.google.co.uk/webhp?sourceid=chrome-instant&ion=1&espv=2&ie=UTF-8#q=cable%20clip%20plugs

 

[telectrix]

use these.

Profix Nail Plug for Cable Clip/Masonry Nails in Hard/Soft Walls 500pcs OM1171 | eBay

 

[telectrix]

snap...

 

[stevethesparks]

Try clipping into the cement course instead. Failing that capping raw-plugged and screwed, oval conduit, mini trunking, plastic pipe. In a garage I would generally use metal clad accessories, so a plastic conduit direct into them would be the easiest way.

 

[Gringoking88]

Hi Simon,

Thanks for the reply, your link comes up with loads of different clips, which one were you referring too???

Cheers

These will help.


https://www.google.co.uk/webhp?sourceid=chrome-instant&ion=1&espv=2&ie=UTF-8#q=cable%20clip%20plugs

 

[snowhead]

I assume you mean lightweight concrete block not breeze as they are quite soft.
Careful use of hammer and selecting every location for a nail, not just blindly trying to knock it into a pebble.

Failing that fix a thin battern to the wall first and then nail to that.
Or mark a line first and drill and plug first.
B&Q Cable Pin Plugs, Pack of 100 | Departments | DIY at B&Q

 

[Gringoking88]

Tele,

Am I right in thinking you have to drill a whole for every clip, does this not become very time consuming, also do you ever find they don't grip the clip nail? I have heard about these and know they are supposed to be good but never used them.

Cheers

use these.

Profix Nail Plug for Cable Clip/Masonry Nails in Hard/Soft Walls 500pcs OM1171 | eBay

 

[Paul.M]

You could always drill, plug and use all round band?



Personally I would use pvc conduit myself.

 

[Gringoking88]

Yep I meant the hard concrete blocks

I assume you mean lightweight concrete block not breeze as they are quite soft.
Careful use of hammer and selecting every location for a nail, not just blindly trying to knock it into a pebble.

Failing that fix a thin battern to the wall first and then nail to that.
Or mark a line first and drill and plug first.
B&Q Cable Pin Plugs, Pack of 100 | Departments | DIY at B&Q

 

[telectrix]

conduit with metalclad accessories would be my choice in a garage. steel conduit if the customer is a rough-arse.

 

[Octopus]

Hum..... not to use cable clips and use something that uses a more secure fixing including screws.

In a garage or shed I would be using some form of protection.

Your design needs to take into account the environment its going in - so a garage, with no plastering and where people tend to not care too much having bare cable on walls is just asking for trouble.

 

[telectrix]

years ago, i was taught that if it's below 6ft. and/or prone to be damaged, then mechanical protection is advised.

 

[Octopus]

years ago, i was taught that if it's below 6ft. and/or prone to be damaged, then mechanical protection is advised.

I tend to protect up to just below ceiling / roof height!

Here's a couple of photos of my new garage!





Hope this helps

 

[telectrix]

only thing i'd do different there would be to space out 2 saddles on the drops instead of 1. and i prefer the look of these clips to saddles.

 

[ipf]

snap...

Another clip knackered, eh tel?

 

[telectrix]

ha bloody ha. i don't need all these fancy tools and fixings. i just spit the nails in.

 

[Octopus]

only thing i'd do different there would be to space out 2 saddles on the drops instead of 1. and i prefer the look of these clips to saddles.

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I was using what I had to hand and didn't have to buy!

 

[telectrix]

i find that the quality of the plastic saddles is so crap that if you tighten the fixing screw more than hand tight, it pulls through the crappy plastic slot that i can only assume is put there for plumbers who think that a spirit level is for ****tting ghosts.