Fire alarm panel relocation problem

[Bob Geldoff1234]

Just been to look at a fire alarm job and would like your opinion on how you would do it.
They want the fire alarm panel moving down the wall by about 3 foot.

It would need to be mounted underneath the nurse call system as the care workers have to get on a chair to reset it.
The wall is a studded partition and the wires terminate in the back using pyro for the bells and ordinary cable for the detectors.
I was thinking along the lines of ,take of the panel,run new wires up the partition behind the nurse call using firetuff type cable for all the wiring.Then mount a steel box where the existing cables are and joint everything in there.Seal round the box and at the back with fire sealant.Refit panel on new wires at lower level.
If anyone can think of a better way then i would love to hear your opinions.The floor above is inaccessible so i cannot pull the wires back up to joint.
Regards
Bob.

 

[Pete999]

Just been to look at a fire alarm job and would like your opinion on how you would do it.
They want the fire alarm panel moving down the wall by about 3 foot.View attachment 37724

It would need to be mounted underneath the nurse call system as the care workers have to get on a chair to reset it.
The wall is a studded partition and the wires terminate in the back using pyro for the bells and ordinary cable for the detectors.
I was thinking along the lines of ,take of the panel,run new wires up the partition behind the nurse call using firetuff type cable for all the wiring.Then mount a steel box where the existing cables are and joint everything in there.Seal round the box and at the back with fire sealant.Refit panel on new wires at lower level.
If anyone can think of a better way then i would love to hear your opinions.The floor above is inaccessible so i cannot pull the wires back up to joint.
Regards
Bob.

 

[westward10]

Sounds like your only option. What is to the right of the nurse call enclosures.

 

[Simlec]

All sounds good to me and no easier way really.
(One thing I do like is the use of ceramic connectors on your bell circuits, but that's just me)
Are all the smoke heads older than 10 years ? if so could change them as well.

 

[telectrix]

Sounds like your only option. What is to the right of the nurse call enclosures.

matron enclosure.

 

[Bob Geldoff1234]

The wall ends just past the nurse call.Was thinking of using wago connectors but ceramic connectors sound good(if you can still get them!).Last time i used them i was knee high to a grass hopper and i would have thought that they are rarer than hens teeth.

 

[Simlec]

Still readily available even your local Screw*ix sell them.

 

[buzzlightyear]

I would go with your first post ,nowt wrong with that .

 

[Squid]

Cut all the cables move the panel add a 9V battery so the "Alarmed" light is lit and do a runner.

Take the air freshener with you as well...........

Only kidding ;o))))

 

[Bob Geldoff1234]

If we are mostly in agreement on how to do it then here comes the question of how much.I would allow a day to do it knowing that getting cables up studding(around existing nurse call wires is not going to be easy).Include the cost of the cables,joints,sealant, then i would have thought around the £300 mark?

 

[buzzlightyear]

Cut all the cables move the panel add a 9V battery so the "Alarmed" light is lit and do a runner.

Take the air freshener with you as well...........

yeah I bet you do that down London .but not up north .I mean not over Hadrian's wall neither.

 

[buzzlightyear]

If we are mostly in agreement on how to do it then here comes the question of how much.I would allow a day to do it knowing that getting cables up studding(around existing nurse call wires is not going to be easy).Include the cost of the cables,joints,sealant, then i would have thought around the £300 mark?

your two lads!

 

[Squid]

Apologies, leave the air freshener as a soapy ferret will do.........

 

[Billsays]

If we are mostly in agreement on how to do it then here comes the question of how much.I would allow a day to do it knowing that getting cables up studding(around existing nurse call wires is not going to be easy).Include the cost of the cables,joints,sealant, then i would have thought around the £300 mark?

I think more like £550. Will you be testing the system yourself after, Or do you need to pay someone else?

 

[westward10]

Your only obstacle is cabling down the cavity, aside from that it should be straightforward but yes I would allow a day. You will need to fully retest the system and I would put aside two hours for that.

 

[westward10]

What provision will you put in place while the system is not functional.

 

[snowhead]

What provision will you put in place while the system is not functional.

Corporal Jones?

 

[buzzlightyear]

I think more like £550. Will you be testing the system yourself after, Or do you need to pay someone else?

he has gone to bed with is cup of coco. thinking about the job?