Kitchen Cooker Isolation Switch, Dishwasher And Washing Machine Spurs

[domestic spark]

saw it mentioned on a thread, although i cant find it?

What about dry-lining .........................what about stud partioning........................... covered in the terms of fabric i guess.

no solid proof mate! IF SOMEONE IN THE FORUM KNOWS OF THIS RULE OR HAS SOLID REGULATION NUMBERS, WOULD BE KINDLY APPRECIATED? MAYBE ITS A QUESTION I SHOULD POST ON A NEW THREAD ME THINKS??? HMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMM
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[malcolmsanford]

There is no solid proof ..................what constitutes the fabric of a building. A stud partion wall start off as a lump of 4x2 screwed into the wall, floor and ceiling , you then stud and baton it out and fit plasterboard to it, and more than likely you fit sockets and light switches into it, so why would that be any more part of the fabric of the builiding than a kitchen base unit secured to the wall.

Providing the FCU is secure and not liable to damage, then it is acceptable, though IMO not the best way to install an accessory.

 

[domestic spark]

Exactly. NOT THE BEST WAY. said it yourself. maybe im just to prim and proper. I WOULDNT DO IT. fix accessories in units and to sides of cupboards. and i wont be slated for it either.

 

[Chr!s]

530.4.2

 

[malcolmsanford]

I don't think anyone would slate you for it, why would they.

 

[Chr!s]

Bs 7671 offers no definition on fabric of a building, does that mean we need to mount them on curtains

 

[malcolmsanford]

530.4.2

My BRB is in the office mate is that the reg appertaining to accessories installed on to the fabric of a building

 

[domestic spark]

Bs 7671 offers no definition on fabric of a building, does that mean we need to mount them on curtains

meaning?

 

[malcolmsanford]

Bs 7671 offers no definition on fabric of a building, does that mean we need to mount them on curtains

So for discussion purposes you would consider a stud partion wall as fabric of a building but not a base unit fixed to the wall Chr!s

 

[domestic spark]

malcolm any idea what chris is on about?

 

[domestic spark]

did i miss the boat?

 

[Chr!s]

My BRB is in the office mate is that the reg appertaining to accessories installed on to the fabric of a building

Yes malcolm that the reg

 

[domestic spark]

5.2.2 (i) should pref be mounted on the building fabric, and not in kitchen furniture. BANG!

 

[Chr!s]

malcolm any idea what chris is on about?

If i dont know what im going on about hows malcolm going yo know

 

[domestic spark]

5.2.2 (i) should pref be mounted on the building fabric, and not in kitchen furniture. BANG!​

 

[Chr!s]

5.2.2 (i) should pref be mounted on the building fabric, and not in kitchen furniture. BANG!

5.2.2 (i)?

Only Pref

 

[domestic spark]

CURTAINS chuckle chuckle

 

[malcolmsanford]

If i dont know what im going on about hows malcolm going yo know

lol....................like it. Wire It I appreciate your stance on this, and in many ways I agree, but that is your opinion and good on you for it. But fitting a FCU or a DP switch in a cupboard is accepted, if not the best practice and is done in many installations.

The bottom line to it is that as a designer you would not do it, as a designer I would not do it either, but if someone decides that it is the only option open to them then yes you can do it, as your interpreting that base unit secured to the wall as part of the fabric of the building. If the base unit caught fire then as the designer you would need to explain why you thought that was the best way to install it.

Put it another way, if you were doing a PIR would you code it?

 

[domestic spark]

i see what your saying and its been a good conversation i think wouldnt you agree, it was knocking around my head and im glad we could talk about it. YES, if i was designing it, and it was a NEW install i wouldnt do it.

HOWEVER, if 2 weeks later it became apparent something wasd missed off, and you did not want to damage cosmetics of the job, CUPBOARD all the way!!

 

[domestic spark]

and to be honest i prob wouldnt!