Kitchen sockets

[Gardner]

Do kitchen and bath sockets require RCD?

 

[telectrix]

BS7671 stipulates that all sockets for general use should be RCD protected. there are some exceptions on the industrial side.a socket is only allowed in a bathroom if > 3m from edge of bath.

 

[davesparks]

bath sockets?

Well that's a can of worms that hasn't been opened for a while on here!

 

[ian.settle1]

Do kitchen and bath sockets require RCD?

Planning to do your missus in?

 

[walsh builders]

I saw an awesome install with a socket and several recessed lights (not IP rated to anything worth mentioning) along with a switch in the bath panel... Oh yeah, forgot to mention, they were all metal fittings!

 

[Gardner]

Planning to do your missus in?

lol, no, but does code require RCD? And to what level?

 

[telectrix]

30mA RCD reqiured in most cases.

 

[walsh builders]

lol, no, but does code require RCD? And to what level?

Do you mean Ma??

 

[HandySparks]

lol, no, but does code require RCD? And to what level?

Yes, see post 2.

30mA is the level required for socket outlets, cables in walls, etc.

If you're designing installations for the UK, you need to get the latest edition of BS7671.

 

[telectrix]

i've got a BRB going cheap.

 

[walsh builders]

Keep an eye on eBay, there'll be a load of green ones at giveaway prices over the next few months

 

[bigbaddave]

I had NICEIC on the phone trying to sell me the new 3rd amendment book. She was rather put out when I said I'd borrowed my mated and photocopied the new pages.. She was like but but but. I was like but what. She said well I don't think that's allowed.

 

[rapparee]

I had NICEIC on the phone trying to sell me the new 3rd amendment book. She was rather put out when I said I'd borrowed my mated and photocopied the new pages.. She was like but but but. I was like but what. She said well I don't think that's allowed.

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There you are three butts

 

[Octopus]

Do kitchen and bath sockets require RCD?

Do you really need to ask this question?

 

[trev]

Do you really need to ask this question?

Different rules where he is.

 

[davesparks]

lol, no, but does code require RCD? And to what level?

Up until a couple of years ago normal sockets were not allowed in bathrooms full stop.
They are now allowed but must be more than 3metres from the edge of zone1 and have 30mA RCD protection.

 

[Gardner]

Yes, see post 2.

30mA is the level required for socket outlets, cables in walls, etc.

If you're designing installations for the UK, you need to get the latest edition of BS7671.

so basically all sockets in a home need 30ma RCD? Nothing less or greater?

 

[Engineer54]

so basically all sockets in a home need 30ma RCD? Nothing less or greater?

Basically Yes 30mA is the standard rating for the protection of persons on final circuits, similar to your 6mA GFCI breakers and integral GFCI receptacles...

 

[Gardner]

Basically Yes 30mA is the standard rating for the protection of persons on final circuits, similar to your 6mA GFCI breakers and integral GFCI receptacles...

So 30ma protection gives the same people protection as our 6ma GFCIs? Or the 30ma is just to protect the structure from fire/meeting ELF impedance requirements.

 

[Richard Burns]

30mA RCD protection is classed as additional protection; intended to protect persons and livestock from the risk of electric shock and is used where there is considered to be a greater rsik of this occurring. i.e. where you are totally wet, where there are appliances on cords (sockets), where cables could be damaged by DIY (i.e. the cables are not visible and close (<50mm) to the surface of a wall).

Obviously there is a different consideration of what level of current is classed as safe, US to UK.
UK use less than 50mA (i.e.30mA) as usually being non fatal, US use 6mA as having no significant physiological effect.

Fire protection, protection in agricultural premises have 300-500mA RCD protection and providing an ADS solution for TT earthed systems 100-500mA RCD, in general.