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  1. daveb
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    daveb Regular EF Member

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    Hi all,

    Was out looking at a job today in a clients office, and have been asked to quote for installing an additional socket for a microwave.

    They have installed a shelf directly above the kitchen sink and have placed a microwave on it - present cord is stretched out across to a worktop socket.

    Anyway, I trying to find the regulation to refer to that prevents applicances and certainly sockets above sink areas. Having searched the on site guide, all i can see is recommended "horizontal" distance is 300mm. Even though the shelf is secure, I am fairly sure that this is against regulations and would like to quote a regulation to him rather than just saying it can't be done.

    Thanks in advance!
     
  2. Andy78
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    Andy78 Trusted Advisor

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    Look up suitability of installed equipment for environmental influences likely to be encountered.
     
  3. davesparks
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    davesparks Trusted Advisor

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    How can you be sure it is against regulations if you can't say which regulation?

    As far as I know there is no such regulation
     
  4. daveb
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    daveb Regular EF Member

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    gut feeling.... didn't dawn on me tonight until I sat down to quote it and thought "hmmmmmmm"
     
  5. D00DY_T00DY
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    D00DY_T00DY Gorilla Whisperer Electrician's Arms

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    What's the worst that could happen
    Got gravity so the water won't make it up to the microwave haha
     
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  6. DPG
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    DPG Electrician's Arms

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    How far above the sink is the shelf? Is the socket above the shelf?
     
  7. daveb
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    daveb Regular EF Member

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    The shelf is probably 500mm above the sink and the socket "will" be about 200mm above that
     
  8. JohnnyRingmain
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    JohnnyRingmain I love cheese. Trainee Access

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    I can't see an issue, but I wouldn't be happy to leave it like that. Is there no chance of moving it over the draining board at all?
     
  9. Nickj
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    Nickj Electrician's Arms

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    South Wales
    I don't see an issue with this. You often come across plugs in the under sink cupboard which could potentially cause more issues than a socket sited 700mm above the sink with a shelf in between it.

    As far as i'm aware no regulation stopping the under sink cupboard socket and so no regulation stopping one 700mm above...
     
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  10. DPG
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    DPG Electrician's Arms

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    Can't see the problem.
     
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  11. telectrix
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    telectrix Scouser and Proud of It Trusted Advisor

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    it's all nanny electrics. one day they'll have us fitting them new-fangled earth leakage trips to circuits in case some dipstick shoves his fingers in a socket outlet.
     
  12. Murdoch
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    Murdoch Electrician's Arms

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    I think there is more chance of injury from the person using the sink head butting the shelf / microwave than from the lecky!
     
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  13. Marvo
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    Marvo GMES....You absolute beauty. YOU ROCK DUDE!!!! Staff Member

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    Electrically I don't see a problem. I'd avoid mounting cooking equipment above chest height for an average person because if you can't see clearly into the microwave there's a higher risk of burns when removing cooked food.
     
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