QS

[Toneyz]

and the b####---- made me walk

 

[Rpa07]

It makes a mockery of good standards and safety for people and livestock as the BS7671 dictates. I agree that something needs to be done on the large scale.
I have had this rant over the time I've been training.
It doesn't take a genius to know that 1 QS can't oversee a whole army of sparks of different experience and make them March to to beat of one drum. I think there should be limits to the number of QS to non registered sparks and mates such as 1 to 4 or 1 to 6 easy enough to police by paperwork and registration number - perhaps some will be paid what they are worth then.

 

[Leesparkykent]

I believe if your a member of the ECA you have to have different QS for roughly every 10 sparks.

 

[Midwest]

In your other post Pete, 'Who was that Man?', there's a question asked about quantity of QS's to staff, by the select committee. It was a good question, that the witnesses to the committee squirmed over somewhat (second half of the video).

It would appear, as far as the schemes are concerned there's no maximum, just assessed by the assessor. That was in 2014, not sure if its changed since.

 

[Phil Thompson]

Sounds like a nightmare, even without own install workload to be done as well.

 

[Ian1981]

Do all the schemes require a qs then?
I've only ever heard the term as an NICEIC requirement?

 

[Toneyz]

This all goes back to Pete999 other post Who was that man? and the video of house of Commons committee to administrate the part P as the LCBC would not be able to cope, the competent schemes are there for this and in part the administrative works well The problem is the individual doing the work an opportunity was missed years ago with the CSCS card to have something like Gas Safe if you go on their website I think it has photo of them as on card and what they are qualified to do .Note that part P does not cover everything electrical

 

[ipf]

I was listening to a debate regarding Part P and a point came up regarding Quality Supervisors, one chap mentioned that many of the larger Contracting firms, say 30 operatives would operate with only 1 QS.


May be quality but are they qualified ?

Tesco have them walking up and down the aisles.

 

[Toneyz]

that would be ok if refurbishing a large office block etc. not if there was 30 sparks doing work over a geographical area

 

[The Ghost]

Well if some of you think its hard to run 15-30 how about supervising 26000 which NIC do. I can only imagine how difficult that must be.

 

[Rpa07]

I weep for them! 26000 x £500 = *****

Well if some of you think its hard to run 15-30 how about supervising 26000 which NIC do. I can only imagine how difficult that must be.

 

[Toneyz]

I weep for them! 26000 x £500 = *****

I'm just re applying for my ecs card guess where the address is

 

[Rpa07]

Not NIC address surely? They'll be making pasties next!

 

[Toneyz]

Not NIC address surely? They'll be making pasties next!

ECS Admin Services Warwick House..........

 

[Rpa07]

It took 10 months to get my ECS card - I don't want to talk about it!
All the best with that Ant!

 

[Toneyz]

It took 10 months to get my ECS card - I don't want to talk about it!
All the best with that Ant!

I did well on Friday got through to JIB & ECS within 5 minuets shocked

 

[Toneyz]

It took 10 months to get my ECS card - I don't want to talk about it!
All the best with that Ant!

how did you get on site then ?

 

[Rpa07]

Didn't need to until I got it then changed my situation and started doing different work.

how did you get on site then ?