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  1. westward10

    westward10 Electrician's Arms

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    I would C3 it for the above reasons and maintenance by non electrical persons.
     
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  3. 7029 dave

    7029 dave Trusted Advisor

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    Read my post 5, all in flavor of local isolation , my post 13 was just stating a fact.
     
  4. Andy78

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    I would like to C3 such a thing but could not as there is no specific reg being breached that I could think of.
     
  5. westward10

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    Agreed unless the manufacturers instructions suggested so.
     
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  7. sparksburnout

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    But you could let common sense override it? After all they are not Statutory, surely you are at liberty to use your experience to make recommendations? The way I see it, you are not going to get into any trouble are you? A C3 is part of a satisfactory report. I suppose you could always attach a separate written note? In such circumstances I would feel obligated to draw it to the customers attention.
     
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  8. bigspark17

    bigspark17 Electrician's Arms

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    Isnt there a reg that states instantaneous water heater, immersions ect had to have 2 pole isolation or was that just for TT.? If no1 would install it this way then there should be a reg no against it or whats stopping people wiring to showers , cookers, imersion heaters, ground source pumps, ect ..straight from cu.?
     
  9. sparksburnout

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    Yup, nice one.
     
  10. westward10

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    Most sparks reading a Report with it as a C3 would think nothing of it.
     
  11. Andy78

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    A note with no code would be the furthest i would go.

    I use the logic that the EICR is a technical report as to the safety of an installation based on BS7671. If it is compliant with BS7671 in all ways it cannot warrant a code.
    If I put a code based on my opinion against something that is compliant with BS7671 , the report ceases to be based on BS7671 and becomes open to abuse.
     
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  12. sparksburnout

    sparksburnout Electrician's Arms

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    Good point. Personally, I have not come across this scenario. As you say, there is no actual contravention. Also, as Westie says, no other Spark reading it is going to get in a stew. At the end of the day the report will be Satisfactory so the Landlords and agents won't look any further. Maybe a written recommendation, attached to the report would be the best way to do it as you say.
     
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  13. Pat H

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    As others have said if its BS7671 compliant then you can't issue a code, even a C3.
    I'd probably verbally suggest an isolator and email that as well as a recommendation but not include it in the EICR
     
  14. Murdoch

    Murdoch Electrician's Arms

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    As the inspector you can offer your opinion of the installation, and in this box I would include such a comment
     
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  15. sparksburnout

    sparksburnout Electrician's Arms

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    Nice to see the OP coming back with some comments or constructive thoughts......
     
  16. Murdoch

    Murdoch Electrician's Arms

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    At the time of posting this he was viewing this very thread 6 minutes ago.... maybe he's composing an update!
     
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