Smart meters problems

[slacky1230]

Im an electrician myself and I couldn't understand the problem. Surely the neutral is just for the lcd to work?

This is the second guy that's come to do it. The first one made a big deal staying it's unsafe if he touches it it could be a disaster etc.

The stupidest thing is he said he can't do the gas as it needs electric to work lol.

 

[DPG]

There's not a separate live to the CU. the neutral has been taken from the cutout directly to the CU and not from the meter to the CU. it makes difference at all to the metering of the supply.

Yeah misunderstood the op. Made more sense when I saw the sketch.

 

[7029 dave]

My question would be, why the hell did he not take it out of the cut out, and terminate it direct into T3.?He is authorized to do that.?

 

[slacky1230]

Where would t3 be?

 

[mache]

From my understanding the smart metre needs the neutral supply for self power operation. Not that they would take a lot of power but it means the users are not paying for the cost of metre operations, if that makes sense.
From this particular installation I,m guessing the metre installers don't carry tails or re prohibited from changing the characteristics of a current installation.

 

[7029 dave]

Where would t3 be?

Terminal 3 of the meter. L1 N2(supply side) N3 L4. (to customers installation), you should know that if you are an Electrician.?

 

[slacky1230]

Sorry misunderstood though you ment t3 at the cut out. The tails come through the wall from the cut out to the meter. The meter isn't in with the cut out

 

[7029 dave]

Sorry misunderstood though you ment t3 at the cut out. The tails come through the wall from the cut out to the meter. The meter isn't in with the cut out

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Yes seen this set up as stated in previous post. I don't fit smart meters. (not smart enough), however changed plenty of this type meters, I just bung up the third terminal, as far as the Electrical theory it does not matter the N is returned at source . I can't really comment anymore.

 

[Rpa07]

I can't really comment anymore.

Why Dave, would you have to kill us?

 

[7029 dave]

Why Dave, would you have to kill us?

NO NO

 

[Rpa07]

Ok Mr Bond, just asking! Sheesh!

 

[PEG]

Whatever's going on...it's just not natural

 

[dmxtothemax]

Get an electrician to change it ?
move the neutral wire that curremtly go from the incoming supply to DB,
move it so it goes from DB to smart meter !
Where can he find some electricians chaps ???
anyone know ???

 

[davesparks]

Get an electrician to change it ?
move the neutral wire that curremtly go from the incoming supply to DB,
move it so it goes from DB to smart meter !
Where can he find some electricians chaps ???
anyone know ???

The only slight issue is that it involves opening the cutout

 

[D00DY_T00DY]

Get an electrician to change it ?
move the neutral wire that curremtly go from the incoming supply to DB,
move it so it goes from DB to smart meter !
Where can he find some electricians chaps ???
anyone know ???

Pretty sure everyone here just wings it :/
Worked well so far

 

[valleybilly]

Been reading up on smart meters & if you change suppliers you need to change the smart meter again as the software is supplier specific . How smart is That !

 

[DPG]

Been reading up on smart meters & if you change suppliers you need to change the smart meter again as the software is supplier specific . How smart is That !

Not convinced on that one. Surely a firmware upgrade at most. Can't believe a standard Siemens meter would need ripping out.

 

[valleybilly]

Not convinced on that one. Surely a firmware upgrade at most. Can't believe a standard Siemens meter would need ripping out.

They are set up to work with ther own tarrif supplier rates and like NHS systems are not interractive so i've read . I wait to be corrected .

 

[DPG]

They are set up to work with ther own tarrif supplier rates and like NHS systems are not interractive so i've read . I wait to be corrected .

I call BS, but I am also willing to be corrected I reckon they could upgrade firmware over the mobile network quite easily.

 

[valleybilly]

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