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Discuss Unprotected and damaged Earth to Electrode - C2 or C3? in the Periodic Inspection Reporting & Certification area at ElectriciansForums.co.uk.

  1. gccs

    gccs EF Member

    Location:
    Surrey
    C2 or C3, which do you think?
    Can't make my mind up.
    Any other thoughts?

    From MET, through wall to Electrode, not clipped to the wall, just dangling free.
    Electrode fully buried at the moment, under leaves and debris. Not cleared this away yet. Then....
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    .. as you can see, the insulation has been damaged!
    So, higher chance the cable will deteriorate

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  3. gccs

    gccs EF Member

    Location:
    Surrey
  4. Pete999

    Pete999 Trusted Advisor

    Location:
    Northampton
    An absolute abortion
     
  5. gccs

    gccs EF Member

    Location:
    Surrey
    So AA then instead of a C code?
     
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  7. Pete999

    Pete999 Trusted Advisor

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    The worst possible
     
  8. Pete999

    Pete999 Trusted Advisor

    Location:
    Northampton
    Are you the one doing the EICR?
     
  9. gccs

    gccs EF Member

    Location:
    Surrey
    Maybe!
    It's a rented property, so this was just noticed and will be sent to the agent. They may then ask for an EICR to be completed.
     
  10. Pete999

    Pete999 Trusted Advisor

    Location:
    Northampton
    Right OK then it should be sorted soonest
     
  11. gccs

    gccs EF Member

    Location:
    Surrey
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  12. westward10

    westward10 Electrician's Arms

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    Northamptonshire
    You need to see the final connection before making a final judgement. The insulation damage isn't too much of a concern, bare earthing conductors to electrodes used to be common place.
     
  13. anthonybragg

    anthonybragg Regular EF Member

    Location:
    NORTHAMPTON
    Business Name:
    CHARLTEC ELECTRICAL LTD
    I was going to say C3 improvment recomended (machanical protection) if the Ze was low and all other conditions were met eg RCD tails clamped etc.However you can not get in to test.
     
  14. HandySparks

    HandySparks Trusted Advisor

    Location:
    Hampshire
    Business Name:
    Neish Electrical Services
    Eh?
     
  15. westward10

    westward10 Electrician's Arms

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    Think a comma is missing. RCD, tails clamped......
     
  16. anthonybragg

    anthonybragg Regular EF Member

    Location:
    NORTHAMPTON
    Business Name:
    CHARLTEC ELECTRICAL LTD
    sorry tails clamped as they enter consumer unit (if metal) rcd or rcbo protection to overcome high Ze to meet disconnection times.
     
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  18. anthonybragg

    anthonybragg Regular EF Member

    Location:
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    Business Name:
    CHARLTEC ELECTRICAL LTD
    you know what I mean ,as I pointed out before I don't come on here to have a spelling/grammer test
     
  19. davesparks

    davesparks Trusted Advisor

    Location:
    guildford
    If the Earthing conductor is damaged then it is potentially dangerous, you can argue all day long about what might be ok or whether it actually needs the insulation or not. But the fact remains that it is damaged and was not designed to be installed as a bare conductor.
     
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  20. westward10

    westward10 Electrician's Arms

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    You could probably cut the conductor off and you will still have a return path, whilst this isn't an ideal situation I wouldn't call it potentially dangerous. Looks like a strimmer has been at it.
     
  21. davesparks

    davesparks Trusted Advisor

    Location:
    guildford
    There's a lot of things which could 'probably' be ok.
    I get your point, but without knowing what or how much corrosion has occurred to the conductor then I'll stick with a C2.
    I'd also recommend that the conductor be better protected, there's no point replacing it the same as it will likely suffer the same damage
     
  22. Wilko

    Wilko Gorillas are Great Electrician's Arms

    Location:
    Berkshire
    Business Name:
    Wilko Electrics
  23. Vortigern

    Vortigern Electrician's Arms

    Location:
    England
    Business Name:
    F.H. Electrical
    What were the kitchen fitters thinking? I despair!
     
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