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It was so simple , any colour meant danger .
As for new stuff ,
Grey isn't even a colour , and Blue is how we feel about it !
agreed. primary colours mean danger, even in the animal world. ever seen a brown and grey wasp?
 
They often fail to meet the required times when testing for an EICR or alteration/addition job due to not being operated for years, but after a couple of 'trips' they're generally fine again .
They are not fine again, if they fail on the first operation then they need replacing.
 
They often fail to meet the required times when testing for an EICR or alteration/addition job due to not being operated for years, but after a couple of 'trips' they're generally fine again .

They are not fine again, if they fail on the first operation then they need replacing.

Really ? So you test an RCD with your meter, one that may not have been tested in any way for years- it fails on the first test by a few milliseconds- so you now insist it must be replaced even if the next and subsequent tests are all well within spec ? I think that's ridiculous, are you Dave Sparks in disguise ? :rolleyes:
 
Really ? So you test an RCD with your meter, one that may not have been tested in any way for years- it fails on the first test by a few milliseconds- so you now insist it must be replaced even if the next and subsequent tests are all well within spec ? I think that's ridiculous, are you Dave Sparks in disguise ? :rolleyes:

How long will it remain operational for after you've tripped it a few times?
 
My way of thinking is that the first test may have been the rcd actually in action / fault condition, before anyone has had a chance to free it up. So if you fit and test a brand new rcd that will not meet requirements on its first test, but appears ok on subsequent tests, do you let it go or get the free replacement?
It would have to be a good disguise, I'm about twice he's age (but more handsome)
 
Surely the longer it has been since the colour change the more the warning label is required as it is no longer fresh in people's minds.

A label which states that there are different colours used, but doesn't tell you what those colours are doesn't really help very much for someone who isn't already aware of what the colours are?
 
How long will it remain operational for after you've tripped it a few times?

Well if the end user operates it on the test button regularly as advised to prevent the 'stiction' described by Risteard there's no reason why it won't provide reliable service, a brand new one will inevitably be slow over time if not operated regularly.
 
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Which proper colours? Red yellow blue, red white blue, red white green or any of the other different colour schemes which have been used in the U.K. over the last century!

But the warning label refers to colours to 'two versions of BS7671' , the wiring regulations certainly haven't had that reference for 100 years !
 
Well if the end user operates it on the test button regularly as advised to prevent the 'stiction' described by Risteard there's no reason why it won't provide reliable service, a brand new one will inevitably be slow over time if not operated regularly.
:) sorry but think you are grasping at straws there, you cant be relying on the end user to keep an RCD maintained. If you nailed the 3 monthly test notice on their heads, most would still not do it as it upsets the clocks around the house.
 
I agree Steve, but replacing it after failing just one test won't change anything, the new one will become exactly the same without being operated so IMO it's just a waste of time and money. Would you give an EICR an unsatisfactory overall assessment if the RCD/s were over the permitted time on the first test only ?
 

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