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  1. YoungScud
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    YoungScud Regular EF Member

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    It's a solid-state two-rate meter and a Sangam0 80A Timeswitch, used, for example, for Economy 7 tariff. The grey wire linking the timeswitch to the meter switches the rates on the meter.
     
  2. Adam W
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    Adam W Electrician's Arms

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    The numbers 1 to 7 at the bottom of the display suggest it could be some kind of 7 day timer. I'd be up for pushing the 'menu' button and seeing what options it offers you, or if it has an override button on it see what comes on when you operate that. Alternatively your "electrician" should have been capable of identifying what it does from what circuit it is on and possibly which direction it goes off in.

    My first impression was that it could be an energy meter to tell you how much energy you're using. Is this a possibility?
     
  3. sean_ork
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    There's a set of what looks like instructions folded up to the left of the timer, there might be a few clues within
     
  4. Andy78
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    Andy78 Trusted Advisor

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    Definitely a timer. Merlin Gerin to match the MCBs

    15720 Merlin Gerin | 7 day 1 HP 1 channel timer w/LCD display | 399-5620 | Welcome to RS Online
     
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  5. Martin Kerr
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    Martin Kerr Regular EF Member

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    Get an electrician that can recognise , a basic din rail mounted electronic time clock.....
     
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  6. Duckcave
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    Duckcave EF Member

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    Right then,

    So the Sangam0 80A Timeswitch. This is for multi tariff management potentially?
    The Merlin Gerin to match the MCBs, could this be a timer for the towel rail or outside lighting or cannabis farming?
    And the consumer unit doesn't have any RCDs has it? is this effectively unsafe if there is a fault?

    This has been a really big help guys! great stuff.

     
  7. Andy78
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    Andy78 Trusted Advisor

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    My thoughts in red.
     
  8. Simonslimline
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    Simonslimline Electrician's Arms

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    Or Time switch even. :biggrin5: (sorry for nitpicking) :rolleyes2:
     
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  9. Martin Kerr
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    Martin Kerr Regular EF Member

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    I stand corrected young man , figure of speech ,this neck of the woods
     
  10. andy riva
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    andy riva New EF Member

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    This is a digital time switch.
    It looks like a schneider IHP model without the plastic see through cover
    Hope this helps
     
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  11. TerminatedOnSite
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    If you buying the place to be honest with you I wouldn't bother with investigating what is hard wired to the consumer unit and wasting time investigating.
    As per last picture I assume there is no RCD protection so for safety reasons and to be able to sleep with peace of mind that my house is not a death trap I would upgrade CCU to comply with the current regulations.
    Call an electrician to come and run diagnostics he will also upgrade you earth and bonding through out the property if needed. It might be as straight forward as that. And it won't break the bank as well.
     
  12. TerminatedOnSite
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    If you buying the place to be honest with you I wouldn't bother with investigating what is hard wired to the consumer unit and wasting time investigating.
    As per last picture I assume there is no RCD protection so for safety reasons and to be able to sleep with peace of mind that my house is not a death trap I would upgrade CCU to comply with the current regulations.
    Call an electrician to come and run diagnostics he will also upgrade you earth and bonding through out the property if needed. It might be as straight forward as that. And it won't break the bank as well.
     
  13. Sparkie30
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    Mate you are 9 months too late with your reply
     
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  14. Rpa07
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    Rpa07 1000 posts only 44653 behind Telectrix! Electrician's Arms

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    He's just arrived, he's catching up on all threads - saying that I did just like a post dated May 2016!
    You're everywhere at the moment @TerminatedOnSite@TerminatedOnSite - keep it up!
     
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  15. westward10
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    Give me a few months I will like this one:)
     
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  16. davesparks
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    It's going a bit far to suggest that an installation without RCD protection is a death trap!

    Diagnostics? What diagnostics can you run on a house?
     
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  17. TerminatedOnSite
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    TerminatedOnSite EF Member

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    Sorry guys as Rpa07 said I'm new to the game and all over the place.

    What I meant -as irrelevant as it is now lol- by diagnostic is test the whole installation and if happy with the values Chang the CU alone (if no borrowed neutrals etc).
    If I'm buying the house myself I would rip it all out and start from scratch anyway but I love what I do and it doesn't bother me if I would rip old colors 10mm cooker cable out, even if Megger comes Hi apply, anyway I'm a fish here so give me a bit more time to fit in please

    I'm off drinking now have a fantastic 2017 lads!!
     
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  18. Rpa07
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    Rpa07 1000 posts only 44653 behind Telectrix! Electrician's Arms

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    You're alright @TerminatedOnSite@TerminatedOnSite, you're just like a new puppy let off the leash for the first time. We expect you to do a little bit of wee and probably be sick at some point but you are experienced and qualified so dig in mate and happy new year puppy!
    Although from a previous unedited post where you wrote 'Andy tickle' instead of 'and tackle' it made me chortle - it may even become your nickname!
     
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  19. anthonybragg
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    anthonybragg Electrician's Arms

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    Looks like a timeclock to bring some type of heating in line with cheap rate hours.if not for outside lights just a gess
     
  20. dmxtothemax
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    Could be a digital timer
    Or an irrigation controler
    Could even be for Christmas lights ?
     
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