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Old 25-02-2008   #1 (permalink)
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Default Replacing a fuseboard

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A friend is selling his house and has had a survey done by the buyer on the wiring, in the report its states that his old fuse wire board has to be replaced with a new board. I can understand if they were doing new work to the wiring/circuits in the house but this to me seems to be someone trying it on to get more money off the sale of the house.

Is there something new in the Regs that states boards have to be changed when people sell houses? Why change a board that has worked fine for the sake of it? No electrical test was done on the board it was a visual inspection

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don't see the problem myself...as long as your main bonding's in place and the existing board is fit for purpose then don't see why it needs changed.

do you have any exernal sockets? maybe they're concerned about lack of RCD protection.
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Was it just a bog standard survey or did they have a periodic inspection of the electrical installation done?

If it was just a survey I would question the surveyors reasoning for saying that the cu needs changing. If it's because the fuses are the old re-wirable 3036 type, then tell him to do one as they still meet the requirements of current wiring regulations.

The most likely cause he's stipulated a new cu
1, No rcd in use.
2, Old re-wireable fuses in use.
3, Cu is the old wooden backed type.

If it's a full periodic inspection then your mate will have been gived a report & on this will be a section called " observations & recomendations" here the electrician will have listed any problem items or circuits & non compliance's with the regs. He's will have given any non-compliances/problems/faults a code 1 - 4 with one requiring urgent attention.

So if you post up any observations that are listed then better advice can be given.
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Cheers, that was my thinking. Could understand if there was an external point/s but this property does not have them. It wasn't a periodic inspection but it has come on a one page A4 sheet from a electrial firm, we're thinking its a mate of the buyer

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That'll be a visual inspection I should think & to be honest they are not worth the paper they are written on.
Still do them myself if asked, never state a cu needs changing just because it's old or has no rcd though.
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if he's not had a Periodic Inspection done might be worth his while doing so....nice to show potential buyers a lovely, shiny inspection report that ok's the install

...or it could show that the wiring's shot and needs a rewire...
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Cheers for the quick replies
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Default Re: Replacing a fuseboard

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Your help please

A friend is selling his house and has had a survey done by the buyer on the wiring, in the report its states that his old fuse wire board has to be replaced with a new board. I can understand if they were doing new work to the wiring/circuits in the house but this to me seems to be someone trying it on to get more money off the sale of the house.

Is there something new in the Regs that states boards have to be changed when people sell houses? Why change a board that has worked fine for the sake of it? No electrical test was done on the board it was a visual inspection

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Do you need a PIR for these new HIP's you have to supply now when selling your house? I'm only asking because government bring in so much c*** you don't know what right arm is doing from left arm.
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i totally agree that unless its a proper PIR ,by a person with actual qualification its not worth the paper its written on
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Default Re: Replacing a fuseboard

ian, I read not long ago that the PIRS in the Home information packs aren't mandatory YET.

heres something I found

The mandatory documents are:

An index (ie a list of the contents of the HIP)
A sale statement (summarising the terms of sale)
Evidence of title
Standard searches (ie local authority enquiries and a drainage and water search)
An Energy Performance Certificate (EPC)
Commonhold information (where appropriate)
A copy of the lease (where appropriate)

Documents that are optional include:


A Home Condition Report (HCR)
Additional leasehold, information
Guarantees and warranties
Other searches relevant to the particular area

Do I have to put electrical certificates in my Pack?
Electrical certificates (past or present) are not a required component of the Pack, but can be included if the seller has them.


Home Information Pack - Sellers' frequently asked questions


If You Build It, They Will Come n If it aint broken don't fix it!
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