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11-02-2008
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 |  Re: Too many or not enough..... trouble is, i think, that they are guidance notes and codes of practice, and not real regulations. Now if you REALLY want to sort out the cowboys, make BS7671 a statutory document, now THAT would set the cat among the pigeons   |
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11-02-2008
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| Administrator  Join Date: Jul 2007 Location: South Yorkshire
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 | Re: Too many or not enough..... yep, i agree, theres lots and lots who dont even bother, and i take the time to study the thing. so on that note I 2nd that |
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25-02-2008
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| Re: Too many or not enough..... Well, I think the way it works is that BS:7671, wiring regs are not enforcable by law, However, They are a guide. So if you kill someone with the work you do, the procecution will use the regs against you, and you will be analy violated. |
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25-02-2008
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| Re: Too many or not enough..... The trouble with making BS 7671 law is there are a few flaws in the book 16 Edition - Look at page 116 54G, all CPC up to 16mm should be the same size as the phase. The only one I know that meets this requirement, in house wiring, is the Imm twin + earth. |
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25-02-2008
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| Re: Too many or not enough..... the reason t&e has different cpc sizes is because cable manufacturers calulate their cable sizes rather than use 54g havent got my current regs handy but in this one start with 543-01-01 as for making regs statuary they would have to be rewritten to remove ambiguous language and and indefinable terms like"good workmanship and proper materials" then you would need a lawyer to understand them |
| Last edited by wayne; 25-02-2008 at 07:05 PM. Reason: Automerged Doublepost |
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25-02-2008
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| Re: Too many or not enough..... alan...don't know what flaw u mean?? if the cpc isn't the same csa as the phase/line then u have to calculate its suitability using the equation in 543-01-03. Adiabatic equation......not a diabetic  |
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25-02-2008
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| Junior Member Join Date: Jan 2008
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| Re: Too many or not enough..... The flaw is you have a table stating a fact that is not adhered to. If it is different in other parts of the book it does not matter it is still a flaw. And if the BS 7671 was law- you end up with one lawyer quote one rule and other quoting another. Which will be nonsense. I heard on the gripe vine that the 17th as a few flaws. |
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25-02-2008
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| Administrator Join Date: Jul 2007 Location: South Yorkshire
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| Re: Too many or not enough..... as soon, as any one finds them or hears of them, I'd like to take note. I wana know the 17th on the back of my hand |
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