New ceiling light - what am I doing wrong!!!

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• Sep 20, 2017

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Why have you taken the sleeving off, do you know which one was brown and blue of that nasty Chinese cable.

 

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• Sep 20, 2017

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It must be bad - @telectrix is usually last off the sinking ship - women and children first!
I think we all need another bank holiday!

 

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• Sep 20, 2017

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Using 'string' theory it is possible!

 

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• Sep 20, 2017

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westward10 said:

Why have you taken the sleeving off, do you know which one was brown and blue of that nasty Chinese cable.

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As post above text! Doh

 

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• Sep 20, 2017

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IM not trying to botch anything, I'm just trying to install a new light myself.

The bracket may be the wrong way round? As removed this and put back on before photo.

In Worthing by the way.

I removed the sleeves as I shortened the cable and removed out of block supplied

 

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• Sep 20, 2017

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THis is the old light fitting and wires of it helps.

Could having the metal bracket the wrong way round be causing issue?

I'll look at removing the old rose tomorrow and installing new bracket direct to ceiling.

Matt

 

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• Sep 20, 2017

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another light fitting "designed" by some arty farty numpty who hasn't got a clue as to how it can be fitted.

 

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• Sep 20, 2017

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As someone else stated the bracket may have damaged the live conductors.

 

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• Sep 20, 2017

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Ah well, this is what the wring should be if it is correctly wired at the ceiling rose.

you want to get to this

 

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• Sep 20, 2017

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Thank you Richard for taking time to do that I really appreciate it.

I will remove the old rose tomorrow and install directly to ceiling.

I just hope I haven't buggered new light fitting or snagged ceiling wires beyond repair.

I have a family member who is a electrician ( I know I know) but like I said I wanted to do this on my own, pride and all that, but will be calling him if still doesn't work.

Thanks again for all that replied.

Matt

 

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• Sep 20, 2017

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Nifty bit of artwork Richard.

 

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• Sep 21, 2017

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There's no guarantee that's how the wiring is actually configured without some test gear. There's no sleeping on the proposed switch live. What's to say someone hasn't got them mixed up?

Does the electrics trip if you turn the light circuit on without the light connected?

Are the bulbs in the light when you have connected light up and turn power on?

My friend had a similar issue and it turned out someone had put the wrong bulbs in the light from the manufacturer and it was just blowing them up.

 

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• Sep 21, 2017

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If taken the old rose and metal bracket off this morning and can see that a couple of wires have been snagged so assuming that has been causing the issue.

I plan to wrap the wires in electrical tape and attach new metal blacket directly to ceiling as per Richards instructions.

 

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• Sep 21, 2017

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wrap the wires in electrical tape

NO< NO< NO. that would be creating a fire risk for one. wago connectors are the answer. failing which, a short strip of connector block located within the light fitting's dome.

 

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• Sep 21, 2017

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Ok update.

Wrapped all wires from ceiling in tape, only one was visibly snagged but did all as precaution.

Old rose and metal bracket taken off and using the connector block and metal bracket that was supplied with light and installed directly to ceiling.

All is working fine.

However worried about the recent fire risk claim now.......

Matt

 

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• Sep 21, 2017

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as long as you have connected all safely. your earlier post seemed to suggest that you were going to wrap the connections in tape.

 

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• Sep 21, 2017

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Oh dear me another fancy light fitting connected badly by the sounds of it.

 

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• Sep 21, 2017

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No I have made the connections using a connector block, the one supplied with the light fitting.

I simply wrapped the already insulated/sleeves wires from the ceiling in tape as one had noticeable snagged.

 

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• Sep 21, 2017

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Can you post a picture.

 

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Looks to me as the fitting bracket was crushing the conductors just enough to break down the insulation causing a short between cables.