I can now do a junction "box" mf in 20 secs, switch loop and feed

Phil Thompson · May 26, 2018

@123 could you see yourself using these?

Midwest · May 26, 2018

If you use one of those to replace an existing ceiling rose for example; once you've connected up your Quickwire connector, how do you put the connector block up back through the small existing hole, where the ceiling rose was/is?

Wilko · May 26, 2018

Ha - there'll need to be a whole hole, or perhaps only half of a whole hole as these things are a bit smaller. Otherwise it's back into the loft we go, hi ho, hi ho.

The Ghost · May 26, 2018

anthonybragg said:
room for one tool tart

Well it certainly isn't me.
Anyway it may be an answer in search of a problem agreed. Anyhoo the strippers are great.

Midwest · May 26, 2018

I use Click Flow. Still need a big hole made.

Leesparkykent · May 26, 2018

AJshep said:
I honestly can't see where I would use them. Even if I got called out to change a 3 plated pendant to a decorative light as the switch cable goes into the opposite end to the feed so there probably wouldn't be enough slack on the cables to terminate it anyway.

The idea is great though.

Exactly my thoughts....9/10 times you would never have enough slack on the switch wire as it terminates at the wrong end IMO.

The Ghost · May 26, 2018

Leesparkykent said:
Exactly my thoughts

I think you and others may be right if you only look at the product as what it is presented as. I have been thinking of how I may use this and for instance the splitter could be used to tap into an existing circuit to feed an extension for instance. I seem to be doing quite a few extensions lately. I am also thinking it may be of use in altering existing circuits to add more lights. The other day I had to wago a switch and feed and a feed to outside lights. I had plenty of cable to do the connections as it was a new install on an extension. Looking at this product it could have worked really well in that situation as against the wagos and box it would have been a lot quicker. As I have said early days and looking at it from all angles. Looking forward to a 2.5mm² version rated at 32a. The instructions have a somewhat cryptic statement being "DO NOT COVER" I have emailed the manufacturer to ask for some further information on that statement.

Andy78 · May 26, 2018

I think Wago connectors with enclosures are cheaper and obviously infinitely more flexible in terms of wiring configurations.
I can't see me being persuaded by any marginal time saving aspect as I always price my jobs so that I can take it steady anyway. #relaxednotlazy

As I said though, the cable push clamp is a great invention and it would be awesome to see it incorporated into downlights and such. I would urge others to ask them for a free sample to have a play with. Even if you see no use for them they are worth a fiddle with.

telectrix · May 26, 2018

just ordered the starter kit from them. would have come in handy the other day... adding 4 extra 600 x 600 led panels to existing circuit.

Midwest · May 26, 2018

Think a good use of these, if they could take 2.5mm (& 32A), is spurring off a cable on a RFC as a through connection. The instance where you can't use a Wago box, 'cos there is not enough slack on the cable, for the two cut ends to go into the one entry of the Connexbox.

Leesparkykent · May 26, 2018

Midwest said:
Think a good use of these, if they could take 2.5mm (& 32A), is spurring off a cable on a RFC as a through connection. The instance where you can't use a Wago box, 'cos there is not enough slack on the cable, for the two cut ends to go into the one entry of the Connexbox.

A Hager J803 usually does the trick.

Midwest · May 26, 2018

They need competition

The Ghost · May 26, 2018

Originally when I wired a switch and loop in loop out in a junction box it was one of those brown bakelite 4 terminal little brass grub screws. In a loft bent down in partial darkness and I had to get it exactly right. You can't imagine how glad I am something like this and the strippers that come with it, and other things like wago came along.

telectrix · May 26, 2018

think those brown circular junction boxes have had their day now. they can R.I.P. along with the SR 53, Hindenburg, Steam Power, and the Fairey Swordfish.

sparksfly · May 26, 2018

Thanks for the user feedback info Vortigern, i did look at these last year at Elex but got put off by price. I can see they will come in handy for certain jobs.
For smaller joints i usually use a little jcn box from toolstation Junction Box IP20 4 Entries - https://www.toolstation.com/shop/Electrical/d190/Junction+Boxes/sd3071/Junction+Box+IP20/p59791 and push fit connectors.
As for very quick downlight install...
Saxby shieldplus MV downlights are good mid range with integral push fit with 2x cable capacity.

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telectrix · May 26, 2018

if you like the 2 cable push fit entry, have a look at the JCC V50. only 50mm tall, and can be covered by insulation. since finding these, i specify them on all installations.

westward10 · May 26, 2018

That Toolstation joint box looks a right piece of shyte.

123 · May 26, 2018

Phil Thompson said:
@123 could you see yourself using these?

No, I can't see a situation where I would need to use them to be honest. Would you be using them?

sparksfly · May 26, 2018

westward10 said:
That Toolstation joint box looks a right piece of shyte.

Maybe not a wagobox or chocbox but it is smaller & proven useful sometimes.

Wilko · May 26, 2018

westward10 said:
That Toolstation joint box looks a right piece of shyte.

It is better than leaving the connectors run free, but not by much

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