help please, what type of supply is this

applemac · Oct 26, 2011

i didn't wire this, its been like this for at least 6 years,
im presuming its a tns but bob the builder has terminated into the neutral like a tncs supply!
theres no sign of grading or earth wire snapped of the main lead?
should i call the dno?
ideas please.
ps its a siemens swan eddison , very old!
thanks in advance...

telectrix · Oct 26, 2011

definitely a call to DNO

i=p/u · Oct 26, 2011

Looks like tn-c-s to me, but as you say contact dno if you dont want to take cover off and have look.. You never know someone on here might of installed it and say its deffo tt...

applemac · Oct 26, 2011

theres no rod outside,no old installation paperwork "funny that" .
inside its linked into bar along with neutral.

applemac · Oct 26, 2011

ps Ze reads .16

i=p/u · Oct 26, 2011

Well there you go, now if you want to confirm correct, call dno and that will prove the builder didnt have his own ideas

applemac · Oct 26, 2011

ok guys i will call,

million thanks for your time. cheers

i=p/u · Oct 26, 2011

But if it is linked , it tn-c-s, would the dno think you should of noticed this, ive never rang them before.... But tudor always goes give them call , suppose your not ment to take covers off

applemac · Oct 26, 2011

i didn't take cover off as its naughty! i used X-ray glasses!

i=p/u · Oct 26, 2011

applemac · Oct 26, 2011

ha ha just got off the phone to weston power, couldn't tell me what earth i had but sending guys round to look,

she asked if i got any tingly shocks from sink ha ha!

I'm hoping its a tn-cs then i don't have to mess with it.....

i=p/u · Oct 26, 2011

If it is linked it is tn-c-s, say no have no tingles from sink but there is smoke comming from cut out .... Get them there quick

Noton1205 · Oct 26, 2011

They should replace the head as its leaking pitch, so they will identify your earth when they do this.

applemac · Oct 27, 2011

would they do this free? duo offered me a pme upgrade for 130 quid,

is a leaking head a good reason to call them as emergency?

oldtimer · Oct 27, 2011

Why dont you take a PFC PSSC readings if they are the same yhen TNCS is differant TNS

i=p/u · Oct 27, 2011

pefc pefc pefc.... thats one way of telling , learning everyday

oldtimer · Oct 28, 2011

i=p/u said:
pefc pefc pefc.... thats one way of telling , learning everyday

Yes but if you knew how to take a Ze reading you should have taken the pefc pefc pefc because this info would not have wasted everybodies time

applemac · Nov 2, 2011

update, dno
came round, going to upgrade head for free! as it was a 60 amp fuse going to upgrade it to 80 amp pme head.
pulled the main fuse to tighten all the terminations. didn't switch off main incomer or any mcbs-rcds. just pulled it out ha ha.....

oldtimer · Nov 2, 2011

oldtimer said:
Yes but if you knew how to take a Ze reading you should have taken the pefc pefc pefc because this info would not have wasted everybodies time

So it was a PME then

applemac · Nov 2, 2011

he couldn't tell me! i asked him to leave me a safe earth and he said the one i had was ok till they change the cut out.
didn't take Ze.....

anyway I'm looking forward to a bigger fuse so i can fill my roof with flashing reindeers...

oldtimer · Nov 2, 2011

Look applemac if you are going to get on in this trade you need to as questions and dont think I am try to lecture you or give you a hard time when you go to a job like this dont take the reading that you think you need take the all the readings you can take it will no cost you anything plus the more info you have the better picture ie a policeman does not grab on to one clue and then run with it he gets lots of clues then he can build a case on them and if you are not sure then ask but when DNO man turns up on site you need to ask the questions dont stand back and say well he did not tell me because that tells him that he either intimidates you or you dont have a clue .

Knobhead · Nov 3, 2011

Funny how two other old farts agree with you oldtimer.

applemac · Nov 3, 2011

Point taken, thanks

kenny james · Nov 3, 2011

Tony said:
Funny how two other old farts agree with you oldtimer.

how i agree with you tony, old timers need to either get involved with positive attitudes and give worthy advice were required to sparks or shut up and keep there stupid opinions to themselves! why have a forum were everybody should know everything as the old timers seem to want, how ridiculous would it be to read everybodies comments agreeing on everything because everybody knows everything!

oldtimer · Nov 4, 2011

kenny james said:
how i agree with you tony, old timers need to either get involved with positive attitudes and give worthy advice were required to sparks or shut up and keep there stupid opinions to themselves! why have a forum were everybody should know everything as the old timers seem to want, how ridiculous would it be to read everybodies comments agreeing on everything because everybody knows everything!

Well there is not a lot to say on this

telectrix · Nov 4, 2011

well. i've just made it 3 old farts. what oldtimer is trying to say to the OP is to get as much info , readings, as he can so that those who are able to advise have enough info. to do so.

alarm man · Nov 4, 2011

kenny james said:
how i agree with you tony, old timers need to either get involved with positive attitudes and give worthy advice were required to sparks or shut up and keep there stupid opinions to themselves! why have a forum were everybody should know everything as the old timers seem to want, how ridiculous would it be to read everybodies comments agreeing on everything because everybody knows everything!

kenny,oldtimers advise was good,the older guys do know a bit more then others as they have have normally seen it,done it got the old cardigan,you need to listen to the older ones if you want to progress,theres nothing wrong in being told where your going wrong...

SPARTYKUS · Nov 4, 2011

How old do you have to be, to be an old fart? Can I be one (42 & 11/12ths)

Goody · Nov 4, 2011

oldtimer said:
Why dont you take a PFC PSSC readings if they are the same yhen TNCS is differant TNS

This post is classic and goes to prove that this forum is tool to learn the trade. Nothing to be embarrassed about in asking questions and getting the needed advice.

telectrix · Nov 4, 2011

SPARTYKUS said:
How old do you have to be, to be an old fart? Can I be one (42 & 11/12ths)

42??? you got 20 years to go mate before even applying to the old farts club.
and then you'll probably be rejected for not being grumpy enough.

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