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  1. Mark197W
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    Mark197W New EF Member

    Hi,

    I am just wondering if the 2394/2395 course is changing back to the 2391 ?

    I have the Exam success, inspection and testing 2391-10 book and am doing my inspection and testing in may. Wondering if i can revise using this or is it worth me buying a more up to date book ? Any suggestions if so...

    Thanks
     
  2. buzzlightyear
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    buzzlightyear still kicking sand, before pushing up daisies . Electrician's Arms

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    do you know what I can not keep up with it neither. its going back to
    2391 the city & guilds cant make the mind up. use what you have got
    still the same.
     
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  3. Gavin John Hyde
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    Gavin John Hyde Electrician's Arms

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    its now 2391 50/51/52 and not 2391-10

    2391-50 is the 2394 equivalent
    2391-51 is the 2395 equivalent
    2391-52 is the 2394/95 combined equivalent.

    Sure a lot of the essentials will be in the old 2391 books but i suspect City and Guilds have purposefully changed things enough to make you buy new books to make a few more pennies for the chief executives xmas bonus.
     
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  4. Mark197W
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    Mark197W New EF Member

    Cheers for clearing that up.

    Any idea how many exams are involved between the 3 ? Or is it just one written & one practical as the 2391-10 was ?
     
  5. buzzlightyear
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    buzzlightyear still kicking sand, before pushing up daisies . Electrician's Arms

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    has you said .
     
  6. Gavin John Hyde
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    Gavin John Hyde Electrician's Arms

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    with the new city and guilds 2391 they have done away with the long written exam, to in effect compete with the eal exams.
    its now open book on the computer multi choice find the answer job, and you do a written book of assignments during course with the tutor, then the practical is still pretty much the same from what i have picked up from mates who have just done it.
    if you have a look at this link it explains it a bit better, the qualification is well worth the investment though. i have my 2394 but held off the 2395 as it was changing to 2391 series
    City & Guilds 2391-52 Inspection & Testing Course - https://www.tradeskills4u.co.uk/courses/2391-inspection-and-testing
     
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  7. sevuk
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    sevuk Regular EF Member

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    I'm doing the new 2391 now.

    There's an online exam and a practical.
    I think they said there is a 4 question written test with the practical, but I only just started today.
     
  8. Gavin John Hyde
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    Gavin John Hyde Electrician's Arms

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    Well feed back to the forum as your experiences might be helpful to people unsure about the new courses
     
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  9. Simon_Tongo
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    Evening chaps, new member here. Recently done the new 2391-52 (initial and periodic combined).
    2hr online 60 question multiple choice, open book. The open book bit makes it sound easy, but they know you have the book so set the questions accordingly. Some answers are not in the allowed books. The required pass is 75%ish (but as with other C&G exams you need to get a proportion correct in each section to pass). The pass rate in our group was 30%.
    On another day:
    1hr (or was it 1:30, cant remember) hand-written question paper (approx 4 pages, 10-15 questions. Open book. Again not all answers are in the books, you just have to know. Some questions require you to qualify your answer with the exact regulation number. The examiner made it very clear that this paper does not have a pass percentage - all correct or a fail. Using 'phase' instead of 'line or 'earth wire' instead of CPC might result in a lost mark..
    30 minute visual inspection of photographs. noting any defects and giving a C1,2,3,FI code. Not every picture has a defect. Other may have 1/2/3/4+ as well as some stuff that is 'not best practice but not a defect' which should not be given a code..
    You have to get 1 of there is 1, 2 if there is 2 or 3 if there is 3 or more.
    Practical inspection/test of a sample 3-ph/1ph installation. 2.5hrs. Complete a full initial verification using the correct procedures. There will be some faults intentionally inserted that you must report as you go. Any safety critical (like safe isolation) is an immediate fail. Forgetting other things may be OK if you notice yourself, go back and correct then continue (e.g. don't miss a continuity, remember and go back without re-doing the insulation test).
    Fill out both an E.I.C and P.IR with schedules.

    All in all it is a tough assessment - you need to keep a clear head and have done plenty of revision!
     
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    Congratulations and welcome
     
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