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  1. Craig2022
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    Hi, so I started a pat testing job in a big factor a couple of days ago, an I raised a question to my boss about if 3 phase equipment will be tested but he was unsure. Am I right to think that it does get tested? If so he has a new seaward pat tester and I wondered if its easy enough to do this and how you would do the test?
     
  2. loplug
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    loplug Electrician's Arms

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    seaward do 3 phase test adapters depending on which model you have.And the correct settings are explained in the manual
     
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  5. Adam W
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    Adam W Electrician's Arms

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    It should be tested, but whether or not you're doing the testing depends on what limitations have been agreed with the client.

    You'd test it the same way as single phase equipment - connect all live connectors together (including neutral) and test to CPC.
     
  6. spinlondon
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    Is the 3phase equipment portable?
     
  7. Grizzly01
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    Portable has nothing to do with it. Hasn't for a long time...
     
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  8. spinlondon
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    It does when I’m the one doing the testing.
     
  9. MDJ
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    MDJ The Muppet Police Trusted Advisor

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    I thought PAT meant Portable Appliance Testing? so Spinlondons reply IMO was a Justified one.
     
  10. Grizzly01
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    Indeed it does mean that, but as we should all know by now, it's a hugely outdated term, and certainly shouldn't be used as guidance to whether or not any given item should be subject to inspection & testing.
     
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  11. MDJ
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    MDJ The Muppet Police Trusted Advisor

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    There is fixed appliance testing and Portable appliance testing, different things, I do understand both can be part of the same estimate or quotation though.
     
  12. Pete999
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    Correctamundo my Friend both come under the ISITEE CoP I believe.
     
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  13. spinlondon
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    I would expect there to be different rates between the two.
    From what Iunderstand, the rate for PAT testing, is something silly like £2.50 per item.
    I would not be testing 3phase equipment for only £2.50.
     
  14. Adam W
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    Adam W Electrician's Arms

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    It's actually called In-Service Inspection and Testing of Electrical Equipment, and has been for a while now. People still just call it PAT Testing (a misnomer) because it's less of a mouthfull. It's only on places like here where people have coined the term "FAT Testing" (Fixed Appliance Testing) as a separate thing because they just want to go around plugging things into a machine and pushing a button, but in reality that isn't even a thing.
     
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  15. spinlondon
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    From HSE guidance:
    Portable
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    There is no legal definition of portable equipment. However, in this guidance it means equipment that is intended to be connected to a generator or a fixed installation by means of a flexible cable and either a plug and socket or a spur box, or similar means. This includes equipment that is either hand-held or hand-operated while connected to the supply, intended to be moved while connected to the supply, or likely to be moved while connected to the supply.
    12 Extension leads, plugs and sockets, and cord sets that supply portable equipment are classified as portable equipment because they operate in the same environment and are subject to the same use as the equipment they serve. Portable equipment also includes appliances which have been fixed for security purpose such as those in public areas of hotels and changing rooms, eg kettles, hairdryers, hand dryers, lamps etc. The electrical supply to the equipment is assumed to be at a voltage that can give a fatal electrical shock, ie more than 50 V ac or 120 V dc.
     
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