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  1. chris day
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    chris day Regular EF Member

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    Hello guys

    I have a client who has been commissioned to make some bespoke lights for an art gallery and they wan the lights be signed off some how.

    The lights consist of a metal frame incorporating a 24v LED uni, the unit will be supplied by a SELF 24v PSU and switched internally by a toggle switch.
    i have requested manufactures data and environment in which the lights will be installed.

    At the moment i am looking at the job a being a glorified PAT test what do you guys think.

    Light fitting panel - reverse.JPG

    Light - rear view.JPG
     
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  2. westward10
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    westward10 In echoed steps I walk across an empty dream. Electrician's Arms

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    Good question I would assume you would have to look into the Electrical Equipment (Safety) Regulations 1994 and possibly others but I don't know how you could provide certification. I suspect the section of MDF if that is what it is may be a stumbling block being that it is combustible.
     
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  3. SWD
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    SWD Gender neutral Electrician's Arms

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    You can get fire resistant MDF, up to 60 mins.
     
  4. SparkyChick
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    SparkyChick Making a banana smoothy for my fave gorilla Electrician's Arms

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    My question is... do you in fact have to do anything electrical? If you're using off-the shelf power supply units, then they would need to be certified (which you would hope is done by the manufacturer), but what you connect to the end of it...

    I might equate it to building a PC for someone... I buy the power supply ready made and just connect it up.

    When I worked for a company making cash handling equipment and ticketing solutions, we bought our power supplies and lighting rigs as complete units and they were just fitted to machines. The machines themselves underwent nothing more than PAT testing (I didn't build production machines, just prototypes so if that's wrong, please don't have a pop at me).

    Just my thoughts on it.
     
  5. westward10
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    westward10 In echoed steps I walk across an empty dream. Electrician's Arms

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    You may well be correct SC.
     
  6. SparkyChick
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    SparkyChick Making a banana smoothy for my fave gorilla Electrician's Arms

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    I just don't know though and actually, I'd like to because bespoke lighting fixtures is something I'm considering myself, but again I'd be looking at using off the shelf parts for the power supply side.
     
  7. snowhead
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    snowhead Trusted Advisor

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    Have the Art Gallery specifically requested the amateur look?

    If I owned said Art Gallery, they'd be in the skip at the rear of the shop.

    Or is the example above just a mock up and the final product will be metalic?

    Whoever designed and manufactured them should be declaring them safe and conformant.
    That should also include a long term test eg. 24hrs for a week to see the effects of heat on the frame and reflector.
     
  8. Cadgey123
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    Cadgey123 Regular EF Member

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    The guy wants advice on getting the lights certified somehow, not your opinion on what you make of the design.
     
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  9. snowhead
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    snowhead Trusted Advisor

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    Well read the other part of my post then.
    Either the manufacturer should be certifying them themselves if they have the competence to do so, or sending them out to a Testing specialist, someone like these ; CE Compliance - Specialist CE Compliance & CE Mark Testing Service - http://www.cemarkingassociation.co.uk/compliance/

    But nobody in their right mind should be certifying those as safe to use.
     
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    Last edited: Jul 15, 2017
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