About alarm systems?

[bluearmy]

I have limited knowledge about alarm systems, i no only the very basic things about them, but i am wondering can any make outside bell box be linked to any make alarm system? I no its a bit of a strange thing to say but if anybody can pass on any information that they think could help me for future installs, it would be greatly appreciated.

Cheers lads

 

[mark1979]

i think most bellboxes can be used with most panels and normally there's a table in the instructions to correspond the connections for different panels.

 

[UNG]

Yes bell boxes or external sounders can be either SAB or SCB and can be connected to all makes of panel

 

[Jel]

Yes you can.If you use wireless alarm, they normally give you an adaptor to use any make of normal siren and use it as a wireless siren.

 

[alarm man]

Yes you can.If you use wireless alarm, they normally give you an adaptor to use any make of normal siren and use it as a wireless siren.

what adaptor is that.

 

[Jel]

what adaptor is that.

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You can even have an internal speaker, so you can listen in if people are walking around the house.

 

[alarm man]

i like that wireless psu,but how much does it cost

 

[UNG]

A quick Google and they are about £43 inc VAT

 

[Jel]

use this website, i always get from them. They are cheap and normally get delivery to you within 2 days.
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[th3pony]

alarm related question ? my alarm fitter has asked me to provide him with a non rcd protected mcb for his alarm to run off. I i am having trouble finding a consumer unit that is suitable.

 

[Marvo]

alarm related question ? my alarm fitter has asked me to provide him with a non rcd protected mcb for his alarm to run off. I i am having trouble finding a consumer unit that is suitable.

Maybe another option would be to run a normal RCD protected circuit and fit an isolating transformer for the alarm guy next to where the panel will be installed. Assuming the load is pretty low it would probably only cost a few pounds. I'm not from the UK so maybe just check it doesn't transgress any regs before you do it.

 

[Jel]

Does your consumer have an RCD inside it at the moment then? There are many ways around this.

 

[th3pony]

consumer unit has 2 rcd and 10 mcb's with space for 2 spares but 2 spares would also come under the rcd

 

[grahame12]

If its a general house alarm, dont see the need for it to be on an rcd. alarm will have a battery back up if the rcd does ever trip. could understand on large commercial unit , may take someone a few days to realise the rcd has tripped but i a house you would know pretty much straight away.

 

[th3pony]

thats what i thought but the alarm guy wants this so do you think i talk him round

 

[grahame12]

worked for alarm companies in the past and they have never been off a non rcd protected circuit. not really sure why he would want this ....... dont get unwanted tripping etc off an alarm normally ...... ??

 

[Jel]

He most probably means if the alarm was to be put on same side as other circuits,and there happens to be a fault with one of them whilst they are on holiday, then it will trip RCD and alarm will become inactive (once back up

 

[Jel]

consumer unit has 2 rcd and 10 mcb's with space for 2 spares but 2 spares would also come under the rcd

What make is the consumer unit?

 

[grahame12]

technically this could be the case. If you are having a dialler on the alarm ( one that rings you if the alarm is set off ) im sure there are normally programmable outputs and you could set one of these up for mains failure ...... aka if the power turns off you get a phonecall telling you . Not 100% sure if you can on most general house alarm but the more large scale ones im sure this is possible ?