Adding new circuits to all insulated consumer units

[Ian1981]

Which guidance would this be.

Niceic have a pdf on codes my boss sent me from their site.
Also have a copy of napit code breakers book( given out by the company on a tool box talk ) and the best practice guide.
As I say the usual suspects and guidance given.
Depends if you agree on it or not as to what action and recommendations you give.

 

[Octopus]

As I say the usual suspects and guidance given.
Depends if you agree on it or not as to what action and recommendations you give.

I will be extremely disappointed if the 18th Ed doesn't clear this farse up ..................

but I'm not holding my breath

 

[Ian1981]

I will be extremely disappointed if the 18th Ed doesn't clear this farse up ..................

but I'm not holding my breath

You can only do your best but I do wonder if trades like gas installers have as much variety of different options on code of practice and regulation matters ?

 

[westward10]

I will be extremely disappointed if the 18th Ed doesn't clear this farse up ..................

but I'm not holding my breath

What needs clearing up.

 

[Octopus]

What needs clearing up.

The appropriate "words" in our big book to make these situations clear and unambiguous.

There is at least 1 spark near me who, when ever he sees a fuseboard with fuse wire says "that's illegal" - and people believe him.

Clarity wouldn't take much effort

 

[Phil Thompson]

Thats because it's ll they teach on the quick fit sparky courses

We don’t have the Electrical Trainee courses here in NI as there is no part P, these are guys that have completed a 4 year apprenticeship, that’s why it’s shocked me so much.

 

[westward10]

The appropriate "words" in our big book to make these situations clear and unambiguous.

There is at least 1 spark near me who, when ever he sees a fuseboard with fuse wire says "that's illegal" - and people believe him.

Clarity wouldn't take much effort

Well he is not competent in that case.

 

[telectrix]

there's absolutely no requirement to replace a perfectly installed insulated CU when altering or adding circuits. it's only when replacing a CU (for whatever reason) that it must be metal.

 

[telectrix]

Well he is not competent in that case.

may not be incompetent, just a con merchant.

 

[ipf]

Defo agree on the installers thing.

The 2 boys are 24 and 28 iirc
I’d a customer back in September who had approached 3 different sparks to do 3 phase work at an industrial estate he had bought and was looking to increase number of units. All said they don’t do 3 phase work.

Sadly it seems to be very common for guys only knowing basic domestic.

It is very sad....but even bigger problems arise when such individuals, over confidently, or sometimes with absolute recklessness, regard themselves as competent to start messing around with 3 phase and industrial work.
It's a true reality of the wheels falling off the trade and it frightens me.

 

[telectrix]

even a plumber with a second brain cell can do better than some of these so-called "electricians".

 

[ipf]

even a plumber with a second brain cell can do better than some of these so-called "electricians".

Maybe not quite, tel......but I'd sure trust some of them labourers I had working with me years ago more than 'em.

 

[Midwest]

Strangely though, before 1st Jan 16, there were no codes or such concerns for highly flammable fuse boards under stairs or anywhere else.

What a difference a day makes.

 

[westward10]

Strangely though, before 1st Jan 16, there were no codes or such concerns for highly flammable fuse boards under stairs or anywhere else.

What a difference a day makes.

There shouldn't be a Code now.

 

[westward10]

there's absolutely no requirement to replace a perfectly installed insulated CU when altering or adding circuits. it's only when replacing a CU (for whatever reason) that it must be metal.

Funny how some people find this so mind blowingly difficult.

 

[ipf]

Strangely though, before 1st Jan 16, there were no codes or such concerns for highly flammable fuse boards under stairs or anywhere else.

What a difference a day makes.

Ah! Jan '16. Ain't that when everyone started storing petrol under the stairs?

 

[MDJ]

If under a staircase I would recommend AMD3 boards

first time I have had to give you a disagree, come on man get a grip.

 

[magnoliafan89]

I was always told that if you were going to be adding something new the only things to check for first were the bonding being in place and an rcd. A plastic board would have conplied with the regs at the time.