Additional earthing wire

[Sassa]

Hi! I’ve bought new pendant lamps (see pic 1and 2) and was replacing them when I realised they don’t have an earth wire terminal (but the wiring in the ceiling does) - see pic 3.

The light doesn’t say it’s double insulated (it doesn’t have the symbol) - how can I tell otherwise?

If it is, do I just add a terminal block to the additional earthing wire?

Thoughts greatly appreciated!

 

[DPG]

Welcome to the forum.

Where was it purchased from? Is the black dome metal?

 

[telectrix]

if the actual,light has only a 2 core flex, it does not need earthing. unless it's a cheap grey import.

 

[Rpa07]

That’s a nice shade - very pretty! No comment on anything else - I’m off duty!
Edit - that’s a nice butter dish as well.

 

[westward10]

if the actual,light has only a 2 core flex, it does not need earthing. unless it's a cheap grey import.

If you contain that block connector within this dome it will require earthing.

 

[DPG]

Is there another part to the fitting? Where does the metal ring hang on to? Have I missed something obvious? Too many questions, sorry.

 

[Sassa]

Welcome to the forum.

Where was it purchased from? Is the black dome metal?

Thanks! Yes it is metal. It’s from HK Living which is a Dutch brand but sold all over the world - one of the scandi types that keep popping up.

 

[Sassa]

That’s a nice shade - very pretty! No comment on anything else - I’m off duty!
Edit - that’s a nice butter dish as well.

Haha thanks! From a Portuguese op shop.

 

[Sassa]

Is there another part to the fitting? Where does the metal ring hang on to? Have I missed something obvious? Too many questions, sorry.

Not at all! That’s all it came with. I bought a basic steel suspension bracket which I can use to hook the black ring to (which is vertically adjustable).

 

[westward10]

13 Amp Cable Connector - https://www.tlc-direct.co.uk/Products/BG458.html?source=adwords&ad_position=&ad_id=315107931576&placement=&kw=&network=u&matchtype=&ad_type=&product_id=BG458&product_partition_id=297072075353&version=finalurl_v3&gclid=Cj0KCQiA37HhBRC8ARIsAPWoO0ykXnjJvS-JcpUNwn1YdAHxU1cNNutNspvA-qeTv1IVPyhmk4ON0GEaAi-DEALw_wcB
If this will fit in the dome you could use something like this so it would not require earthing. It looks like your existing ceiling rose has only one incoming cable.

 

[DPG]

I'd go with westwards idea - otherwise you will just end up with that bare connector block floating around, which is not safe.

 

[PEG]

I have seen a nice ivory coloured art-deco cruet set,which would go lovely with that butter dish....but i suppose westy is being more practical...

 

[MFS Electrical]

I have seen a nice ivory coloured art-deco cruet set,which would go lovely with that butter dish....but i suppose westy is being more practical...

Oh please @PEG, do share

 

[Sassa]

Thank so much for all your help! I’ll go with that - parts now ordered. Hopefully show the results shortly. Also keen to see the cruet set!

 

[PEG]

Typical....a finely honed body...beautiful children...even some exquisitely crafted engineering...but it's only me cruet set,you want to see...i despair...

 

[freddo]

I wonder how many of these lights have been installed in a less than satisfactory way because the person fitting it didn't have an understanding of earthing/double insulation.
My cruet set is these light bulb ones

They often end up looking like the pepper one in the photo, the small base ensures they fall over all the time...

 

[Shoei]

...
My cruet set is these light bulb ones

They often end up looking like the pepper one in the photo, the small base ensures they fall over all the time...

The 18th Edition version has fire-resistant supports..

 

[DPG]

It's like reading a back issue of Readers' Cruet Sets. Just needs some strategically placed black rectangles