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  1. jackhammerJIM
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    jackhammerJIM Regular EF Member

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    So i watch a few companies working on you tube and have stumbled across some American sparky channels and after watching have come to the conclusion that American electrics are untidy ,overcomplicated and 50 years out of date in comparison to Uk its laughable .

    The receptacles and switches are hideous , huge fuse boards similar to crabtree and square d of the 1960s to accommodate 110v and 220v .

    How can it be so bad ?
     
  2. pirate
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    pirate Regular EF Member

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    Have you seen their appliances???
    Massive stove-enamelled monstrosities in cream and beige!
     
  3. FatAlan
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    FatAlan Trainee Trainee Access

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    Perhaps their appliance market will go the same way their automotive industry went and get flooded with European and Far East products like in the U.K.
     
  4. gnuuser
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    gnuuser retired Industrial wire monkey

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    i agree! the you tube videos should be banned because it prompts people to do things they clearly aren't qualified to do!
    as far as the boards they are what our suppliers stock
    I wish we had better to work with.
    many of the sparks install everything as fast as they can and the results are often sloppy work.(that crap makes my blood just boil)
    often jobs are contracted at fixed rates so the faster they do the job the quicker they get paid.
    the sense of pride in a job well done is not taught in schools and to me that's a crime.
     
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  5. jackhammerJIM
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    jackhammerJIM Regular EF Member

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    Dont get me wrong the work of the tradesmen i have watched has been very good its the installation methods i don't get .
    Why is this fella installing 20 runs of conduit when 1 x length of tray or trunking would do the job ???

     
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  6. jackhammerJIM
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    jackhammerJIM Regular EF Member

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    non IP rated meter boxes , switch fuses and panels seem to be installed on external walls .
     
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  7. spinlondon
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    spinlondon Forum Mentor

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    20 runs of conduit along that wall.
     
  8. jackhammerJIM
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    jackhammerJIM Regular EF Member

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    Thats not a mornings work
     
  9. gnuuser
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    gnuuser retired Industrial wire monkey

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    trunking would indeed be a better solution but is rarely used in non industrial situations.
    typically in many major cities like Chicago conduit is required due to possible rodent damage. and most residential electricians have little or no skills in tray or trunk systems usually found in larger commercial and industrial installations
    kind of redundant labor i know but you lads have the schools that teach the 5 week wonders and we have then too but you tube isn't helping any
    and we cant make them teach to a high standard (much to my annoyance)
     
  10. GeorgeCooke
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    GeorgeCooke Regular EF Member

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    How old are those youtube videos? It's been 120v and 240v in the US since before youtube was invented.
     
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  11. jackhammerJIM
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    jackhammerJIM Regular EF Member

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  12. Dustydazzler
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    Dustydazzler Regular EF Member

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    American conduit is very mild steel and can be manipulated by hand or using a small (plumber like) hand bender.
    They also don’t thread anything , they use fittings with a small grub screws.
     
  13. Dustydazzler
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    Dustydazzler Regular EF Member

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    One of favourite youtube sparks

     
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  14. spinlondon
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    spinlondon Forum Mentor

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    Con Lok?
     
  15. gnuuser
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    gnuuser retired Industrial wire monkey

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    nw.Pa. USA
    actually 3 different types.
    emt thin-wall connected with collars and setscrews or compression collars (used in dry places with little chance of movement).
    rigid conduit (threaded) in steel, aluminum, coated or anodized aluminum.
    and pvc (with protective ground conductor) usually glued to seal out moisture (used a lot in barns or corrosive environments).
     
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