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  1. Specialist
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    Once again today, our thoughts go out to the victims & families of yet another disgusting attack. The attack took place in Finsbury park London last night & left one dead and up to nine injured. RIP
     
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  2. stantheman
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    Agreed, terrorism is disgusting in whatever form!
     
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  3. J.C.E
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    we live in a crap world!
     
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  4. Cadgey123
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    When will it ever end. People will fear to go to the shops for a pint of milk next.....

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  5. Specialist
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    Rarely a truer word said.
     
  6. Rpa07
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    No we don't - step outside and breath the fresh air and feel the sun on your face!
    Sensationalism by media nurtures those who want to live in fear and globalism and mixing of cultures fuels this fire.
    This stuff has always happened but you wouldn't hear about it or if you did it would be in a magazine 2 weeks later
    Social media fuels the fire.
    Enjoy your lives, get to work, get under those floorboards and find that JB - oh wait, that's me!
    Have a great day.
     
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  7. LeeH
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    Was this a 'terror' attack? It was murder by some nut job in a van against a mosque that has historically preached hate against the infidels.

    I'm sure commie Corbyn will be down there this morning hugging the victims to score a few more political points on the back of other people's grief.
     
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  8. Specialist
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    @LeeH@LeeH : According to Police, yes it was a terrorist attack. Doesn't matter who it's perpetrated by or against, terrorism is Wrong period. I lost friends in 2 war zones fighting against terrorism & hate it in any form.
     
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    More innocent lives snuffed out again. RIP.
    'Terrorist" just the current PC label that police are now having to use for actions taken by mentally unstable / easily manipulated individuals that are now even more at risk due to easily accessible multiple media streams. That includes social media and mainstream news channels that feed off these events.
    I remember a few years back when the oil refinery blew up in Hertfordshire. You could almost detect the disappointment on the news channels that there had not been a massive loss of life.
     
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  10. LeeH
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    Terriost attack my arse, maybe for the PC brigade it was.

    It was a revenge attack by some simpleton. No religious or political gains were made by this moron.
     
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  11. stevethesparks
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    Why is this labeled a terrorist attack when the attack on the lady by 3 muslim girls was a hate attack? This chap - so far - has not claimed to do this for any organisation, the only indication is that he acted alone. I have to agree he is a lone nut job.
    Why was the Al Qud march that happened yesterday allowed to go on and not been in any of the major newspapers - that I've seen? I thought enough was enough Mrs May. As for the Corbyn and Abbott routine! I despair for our future with any of them.
     
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    Well I wonder what the silent majority are thinking.
     
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  13. Gavin John Hyde
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    It is sad really, at end of the day its somebody;s father, brother etc that died and a family who now suffer with the loss. but these things no longer seem rare or so shocking , we have become almost accepting of it. it is wrong and always wrong and can never be justified. but i do think a large part of the silent majority will say its on the other foot and some say so what. its going in the other direction.
    For once on news they said something i agreed with... this country is more polarised and segregated than ever before. its getting worse.:cry::mad: hopefully a time will come when we can just get on with each other and accept our differences. life is too short to spend it hating each other
     
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  14. Vortigern
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    The electorate chose a government who have decided to change the demographics of not just one country but many in fact. There will and always has been historically friction as a result of this.
     
  15. Vortigern
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    Just a possible solution.

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    It's the Government's fault by failing to Act. If you keep throwing punches then at some point you have to expect retribution back. Now I'm not condoning these attacks but come on. You can't keep having people fearing for there lives and not expect the consequences of that nature. The more the rhetorically push the people in the corner and ignore the elephant in the room the more attacks like this will happen... I have no faith of what's going on in that crazy island anymore. The people had their chance to vote and most voted for the communist sympathiser.


    Also I would like to add that it took the Muslim council of Britain 30 minutes to provide a written statement on the atrocity. Where were they when the other **** happened? Silent.
     
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    "Also I would like to add that it took the Muslim council of Britain 30 minutes to provide a written statement on the atrocity. Where were they when the other **** happened? Silent."

    This is demonstrably untrue. I suggest you go to their website.

    Secondly this clearly was terrorism. Terrorism is defined as "the unlawful use of violence and intimidation, especially against civilians, in the pursuit of political aims". This fits the bill perfectly. It may not have been done in the name of a specific organisation, but let's face it, Britain First and their ilk will be singing this guy's praises.
     
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  18. KennyKen
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    I'm well informed thanks... I'm also well informed that the BBC used fake Muslim vigils to show how emphatic they can be.

    I never denied that this loser should not be called a terrorist but by the sounds of it you sir obviously do not live or have lived in an area which is fuelled hatred upon its indigenous population. Maybe your ilk need to wake up
     
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    It's been reported this morning that's he's a bit radio rental. No surprises there then.
     
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  20. frontier219
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    Evidently you aren't well informed as you stated the Muslim Council of Britain were 'silent' on the Manchester and previous London terror attacks when they weren't. The simple fact is that both Islamic Fundamentalists and British Nationalists are stoking the fires. Both want more conflict because more conflict means more people following their disgusting ideologies. You seem to have sympathy for the attacker in this instance, despite the fact that he attacked innocent civilians.

    You state that this is the Government's fault for 'not defending us'. Might I ask what you suggest they do?
     
  21. KennyKen
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    Notice how leftists always try to denounce an individual. I have sympathy for the sad situation that Britain is in. not the attacker. Got anything better to throw back at me than accusations of secretly condoning the perpetrator.

    It is the governments fault for having over 3000 known Jihadists on a watch list. Maybe have these high risk Jihadists stripped of there citizenship and detained... or what would you do??? Hold a candle light vigil or maybe cuddle a Jihadi? Show more tolerance? You are part of the problem. WAKE UP
     
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  22. SWD
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    He's Welsh, that may explain it.
     
  23. Pat H
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    Who decides a terrorist on a list should have no legal rights?
    Who makes those lists? What evidence is needed to join a list?
    By writing this do I join a list and face potential stripping of my civil rights and citizenship?
    We have a judicial system and it has to be used. Its convenient to choose to imagine the forces of law and order have the power and wisdom to always do the right thing. But history has shown they can't and don't. They make mistakes. They shoot innocent people by mistake. If you allow that route to be the only solution it doesn't take long to lose a free society.
    The core issue is we have allowed a culture of blaming all our ills on anyone but ourselves. And that culture has ripened and divided the country. Too many people now feel polarised and empowered to seek retribution for the ills of their society.
    This is long standing fake news coming back to bite us.
     
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    What are you not getting? Known individuals who have travelled and have been known or proven to have fought in a terrorist organisation or inciting, Recruiting Jihad should be stripped of their citizenship... I'm not speaking of random lists plucked out the air from the likes of a tabloid. Come on use some common sense
     
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    The reports I have read, the guy that died was already receiving first aid before the attack occurred and may have died as a result of this and not the attack

    Which government do you want to blame for this
     
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    Didn't Mayor Khan say something like this is part and parcel of living in a major city? As this appears to have been deemed a terrorist attack how much more offensive this would sound if I applied it to the Finsbury Park attack.
    Double standards everywhere.
     
  27. Pat H
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    If that's against the law then arrest and charge them for that and let the court decide.
    Not against the law? Which it isn't yet. Then put a law in place. That's when it gets tricky. What do you determine as a terrorist organisation? Maybe one like the DUP that our Government is about to get into bed with?

    And who's lists are they you quote? Do you know who compiled those lists? are they accountable? What if you find your on that list? what's your legal right to challenge it? There is none!

    We should follow the laws of the land and ensure those laws are fit for purpose.
    Making the rules up is exactly what the guy in the van decided to do.
     
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  28. Specialist
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    Explain what exactly ? No Psychos in England are there ?
     
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    I was going to take issue with you on this, but then I saw that you are in Australia and can see what you mean and have to say I agree with you. Though what it has to do with us over here at the moment I've no idea.
     
  30. Specialist
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    @andyb@andyb Kenny is a Brit I believe mate.

    Beautiful looking dog, by the way!
     
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    Evil is universal. Good and bad has no geographical boundaries.
    My Mam brought me up to look for the good in people , and it is there too. :)
     
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  32. andyb
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    I know, but the only way his post made sense was that he is in Australia and talking about the treatment of the indigenous population.

    Thank you, that's Agi, short for Agatha, short for Agatha Christie. (don't ask)
     
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  33. SWD
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    Tongue in cheek, most of the Welsh that I have met are a bit errrr fiesty and thats just the women.

    Why couldn't he attack a mosque in Cardiff ?
     
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    They'd have sung at him ?
     
  35. Specialist
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    No idea why he didn't attack a mosque in Cardiff or for that matter Bridgend or Swansea either, maybe he had a reason for being in London on that particular day. Doubt we'll ever really know the truth.
     
  36. Pat H
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    Because if terrorism is your aim then London will get more press and therefore fulfil your objective.
     
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  37. frontier219
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    Well clearly you have a lot more sympathy for the victims of the previous attacks than you do this one. The fact is that your attitude, the attitude of the tabloid press and right wing groups like Britain First is exactly what radicalises people, as well as attacks like this.

    Ahh yes, detain everyone on a watch list. How insightful. That couldn't possibly cause any more problems.
     
  38. Vortigern
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    Probably the onve you voted for.
     
  39. custie86
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    Honestly, I bet the author of this post did not feel compelled to write after the many attacks that we have endured from Islamic terrorism. Closet communist masquerading as a concerned citizen. Find a bridge, mate and please, jump off!
     
  40. andyb
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    The OP was about sympathy for the victims, don't be a pudenda.
     
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