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  1. rossfenwick
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    Afternoon,

    I've just been to a new build finishing off some lighting and found a fault in the 3c&e between the landing and hallway. No continuity on 1 core.

    It's going to cause a lot of damage to replace the cable. The other 2 cores & CPC are good, IR tests fine.

    Is there anything out there wireless, everything I have seen looks to still need the 3 cores between switches.

    Suggestions welcome!!
     
  2. buzzlightyear
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    if so, than the cable to the hallway to of the stairs needs replacing.
    then is down to plasters to repair the damage .
     
  3. Pete999
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    How do you know it was the plasterer's fault in the first place, Buzz highly likely but is there, be any proof.
     
  4. buzzlightyear
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    what the betting pete. no capping on the cable .plasters nicked with the blade.
     
  5. Pete999
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    Like I said probably right.
     
  6. Ian1981
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    If it's new build there is no plaster , they board the walls and tape the joints then sand down.
    No plastering involved
     
  7. Pete999
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    How old is the property? is it still under warranty?
     
  8. Ian1981
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    He said new build didn't he?
     
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  9. buzzlightyear
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    yeah right .who that bob the builder.
     
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  10. Pete999
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    Yes, so? all I asked was how old, and is it still under warranty fair question I think and why so fractious with your post?
     
  11. Ian1981
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    Not being fractious, I thought you missed the new build part of the post the op posted.
    Chill out yeah?
     
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  12. Ian1981
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    I work on them from time to time buzz, the major house builders.
    Not a plasterer in sight
     
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  13. buzzlightyear
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    it ok boys ,it crunchie Friday!
     
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  14. Ian1981
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    I got my Liam Gallagher tickets so all is good :cool:
     
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  15. Pete999
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    No mate it's bad news Friday as far as I'm concerned.
     
  16. Ian1981
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    You ok pete?
     
  17. buzzlightyear
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    will he be singing when you go a see him .or is he going to walk of the stage after 5mins and telling the fans to f**K off you paid you monies.
     
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    will he be singing when you go a see him .or is he going to walk of the stage after 5mins and telling the fans to f**K off you paid you monies.
     
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    Yes Ian Thanks, calming down a bit now.
     
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  20. Midwest
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    Scolmore do a wireless switch (https://www.scolmore.com/_pdfs/click-smart.pdf). Least I've seen them every time I walk in & out of my wholesaler. I'm sure there's others. Personally I think the fault should be rectified, being a new property and all that.
     
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    It's under warranty then get it sorted properly, no good throwing half arsed repairs to solve the problem, it need doing properly and paid for by the NHBC or whatever they're called these days.
     
  22. Ian1981
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    That's the gamble you take mate haha
     
  23. Pete999
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    Those Gallagher Brothers both of em, are another Pet Hate of mine, wrong thread I know, but as I'm in the mood for peeing people who don't deserve it, might as well add that to my messed up Friday rant, and it was all going so well.
     
  24. Midwest
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    Sounds as if the property hasn't even started it's warranty period yet, i.e. not been handed over to a customer. The fault should be found or cable replaced. You might have a nail or screw in the cable?
     
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  25. rossfenwick
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    Thanks Midwest It would be a bit bodge I suppose.

    It is a new build timber frame. It has a 50mm service void on the external walls where the cable drops at ground floor, then along a flat roof joist up the wall at first floor to the loft across the landing and down to the switch. I'm a bit ocd about being clear of the tackers screws, maybe there using 4 inch drywall.s

    Looks like the hole saws are coming out Monday, better get some filler!
     
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    Think someone has an irrational grudge against plasterers - had them found guilty and sentenced before evidence had been put forward :(
     
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    who givesa sh8t who's fault it was my 110V makits recip saw ( a padsaw on steroids) can find the fault within a minute. ( might create a few more as well).
     
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  30. Andy-1960
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    I agree, but the OP did ask if there was any wireless option.
     
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    Got to agree wireless is just a easy way out .
     
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    Which core is it ? ,the favourite that I used to encounter was skirting board nail below the landing light switch (yes in zone) does this cable have a fault to earth ?.
     
  33. jackhammerJIM
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    is it wired as a standard 2 way or 1 way to 2 way conversion ?
     
  34. rossfenwick
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    It's Brown.

    No IR' s on cpc black and gray are good.

    Opting for the telectrix recipe method. Hopefully less than 4 holes!!
     
  35. rossfenwick
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    Hi Jackhamer, not sure what you mean by conversion.

    Its a 3c&e from first floor sw to ground floor sw. The 2c&e L & Sw L are from the ceiling rose to first floor sw.
     
  36. jackhammerJIM
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    that is wired 1 way to 2 way conversion method . would it be easier to convert it to standard 2 way ?
     
  37. ED17
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    True, might have been a plumber!
     
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  38. electric al
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    Maybe his missus asked a plasterer round to fill a hole in the bedroom whilst he was out tampering with a length of conduit or something :)
     
  39. Leesparkykent
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    Is the switch fed?
     
  40. Midwest
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    You need to read previous posts aka # 20.
     
  41. jackhammerJIM
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    No its dieting :tearsofjoy:
     
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    How long has this been the "conversion method"
    Was actually taught that as one of the many standard methods to wire a 2 way circuit 40 years ago
     
  43. jackhammerJIM
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    It was taught to me as the conversion and standard 17 years ago
     
  44. telectrix
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    it's been a standard method of 2 way switching for as long as i can remember 3 core/E being available ( and it was in those beautiful red/yellow/blue colours, instead of Yuk, Puke and Fart).
     
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  45. electric al
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    Be nice to get those colors back now we're brexiting - harmonisation FFS
     
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