C2 or C3

[Davisonp]

I would value your opinions on this.

I did an EICR and found two lights in a bedroom that are florescent lights so class 1 but the lighting circuit is old and does not have an earth. However, the lights are in vanity units, so you cannot touch the units without dismantling the vanity units. As they cannot be touched, can the C2 for using an earthed fitting on non earthed lighting circuit be downgraded to C3?

 

[HandySparks]

Hmm. Is there any risk to someone changing a tube in the event of a fault?

 

[westward10]

C2 for me because to say they cannot be touched isn't good enough, you did

 

[The Ghost]

Are they on a lighting circuit or plugged in behind or at the side of it?

 

[Davisonp]

Are they on a lighting circuit or plugged in behind or at the side of it?

Wired direct into the lighting circuit.

 

[Davisonp]

The more I think about it, the more I think it has to be changed to class 2 fittings if the client wants a satisfactory result.

 

[Octopus]

What does the best practice guide suggest?

 

[Davisonp]

What does the best practice guide suggest?

Nothing for this scenario.

 

[telectrix]

C2 in my book. CYA.

 

[Ib≤In≤Iz]

I would say a C2, the same as any other class 1 fitting without a cpc.

 

[Andy78]

Nothing for this scenario.

Yes it does. Lack of cpc to a class 1 fitting is a specific example of a C2

 

[Davisonp]

Yes it does. Lack of cpc to a class 1 fitting is a specific example of a C2

The question was if the fitting is inaccessible, can the code change to C3.

And the answer is defiantly “No”

 

[Andy78]

The question was if the fitting is inaccessible, can the code change to C3.

But it's not inaccessible is it ?
As Handysparks and Westward pointed out, it must be accessible enough to change lamps, and for you to determine that it is class 1 with no cpc.

 

[westward10]

It isn't inaccessible, you got to it. I think Class 1, no cpc, minimum Code 2.

 

[The Ghost]

Maybe it's not accessible without a tool?

 

[westward10]

But it's not inaccessible is it ?
As Handysparks and Westward pointed out, it must be accessible enough to change lamps, and for you to determine that it is class 1 with no cpc.

Beat me to it.

 

[Davisonp]

Settled, it is a C2

 

[bigspark17]

C2 for me,, if it has an earth terminal it must be earthed

 

[7029 dave]

Class 2 fitting, or as it stands code 2.

 

[Toneyz]

The more I think about it, the more I think it has to be changed to class 2 fittings if the client wants a satisfactory result.

I hope this does not mean you are being told what the outcome is to be ! Is there any other class 1 on the circuit ?.if the rest of the installation is in a good state that would outcome a satisfactory result recommend to the client they are disconnected until earthed