Ceiling Light Wiring

[MHambly]

Hi Guys, Was wondering if you could help me out regarding identifying the neutral and live for this ceiling light. I am going to cut the transparent flex so it will hang to the length I want but there is no 'red' or 'blue' colouring on the inner conductors. Would appreciate any advice on how to identify which one is which . thanks!

 

[Toneyz]

What type of lamp holder is it?

 

[Octopus]

What do the instructions say??

 

[westward10]

It won't matter modern lamp holders bc or es are not polarity biased.

 

[MHambly]

What do the instructions say??

not much

It won't matter modern lamp holders bc or es are not polarity biased.

ok, thanks for your response

 

[Toneyz]

It won't matter modern lamp holders bc or es are not polarity biased.

Then it won't matter then, will it?

 

[westward10]

Then it won't matter then, will it?

Nope. But ensure the earth is connected.

 

[MHambly]

Nope. But ensure the earth is connected.

thanks again

 

[MJPD29]

Surely it will matter with ES, threads of lamp will be live?

 

[MHambly]

Surely it will matter with ES, threads of lamp will be live?

I was wandering about that as well.

 

[westward10]

Surely it will matter with ES, threads of lamp will be live?

Not on modern ES holders, no.

 

[buzzlightyear]

put one like that a couple of days ago .showed live & neutral .
with out the right gear to test it from the e/s to the live conductor .
you will have to get a spark in .

 

[pirate]

Looks a bit like a bulb on the end of a wire...with an earth...

Knew I shouldn't have started on the red wine so early, sorry!

Amazed how wobbly my timeswitches are...if i wibble them..they wobble....and my christmas lights go dim/bright...

Maybe I won't leave 'em on timers while I am away at my sister's for christmas

Note to self: Padlock that double socket with RCD on the patio...someone will steal your leccy!

 

[buzzlightyear]

I did mention his about tom dick &harry will be on this forum
wanting help over the xmas period cause the wife or the girl friend bending their ears.

 

[MHambly]

put one like that a couple of days ago .showed live & neutral .
with out the right gear to test it from the e/s to the live conductor .
you will have to get a spark in .

I have a voltage detector. how do you test it? thanks

 

[GeorgeCooke]

Not on modern ES holders, no.

Of course the threads will be live on the lamp as they are one of the connections. Modern ES lampholders shroud the threads better but they are still live and the should be wired with the correct polarity, L to tip, N to threads.

 

[buzzlightyear]

I have a voltage detector. how do you test it? thanks

Of course the threads will be live on the lamp as they are one of the connections. Modern ES lampholders shroud the threads better but they are still live and the should be wired with the correct polarity, L to tip, N to threads.

its nice to see novices have a go doing electrical things over the xmas period could end In a big mistake .flak jacket on !!!!!

 

[westward10]

Of course the threads will be live on the lamp as they are one of the connections. Modern ES lampholders shroud the threads better but they are still live and the should be wired with the correct polarity, L to tip, N to threads.

Just to clarify, ES lamp holders manufactured prior to 2004 may well be polarity biased so the centre contact must be connected to the line conductor. Lamp holders manufactured in compliance with BS EN 60238 2004 are not polarity biased as both contacts are at the base of the lamp holder and the outer metal screw contact of the lamp will not be exposed as a live part due to construction of the lamp holder.

 

[MHambly]

its nice to see novices have a go doing electrical things over the xmas period could end In a big mistake .flak jacket on .

don't worry I'll try not to,

its nice to see novices have a go doing electrical things over the xmas period could end In a big mistake .flak jacket on !!!!!

haha aren't you hilarious, good to know we have experts like you out there!!

its nice to see novices have a go doing electrical things over the xmas period could end In a big mistake .flak jacket on !!!!!

haha, aren't you hilarious!

 

[buzzlightyear]

haha aren't you hilarious, good to know we have experts like you out there!!

to much information could be dangerous for the person
who have not got the knowledge or skill to take on a task and in doubt
in what they are doing.