Ceiling rose wires and flush light

[Richard Sewell]

Hi to all, am replacing an old ceiling light with a flush light and just want to check a few things re the wiring.

Looking at L-R, am I correct here – earth (green), neutral (2 black wires), loop (3 red), switched live (single black)?

Secondly, looking at the wiring diagram for the flush light, do I have to link all the 3 red loop wires to go in the 4th block?

MTIA for any advice here.

 

[telectrix]

have you got room in the new light to make the connections, and can you get all 3 cables through the cable entry, ensuring that the outer sheath is within the fitting?

 

[westward10]

Yes they would, can you post a pic of the internal parts of the fitting.

 

[Richard Sewell]

have you got room in the new light to make the connections, and can you get all 3 cables through the cable entry, ensuring that the outer sheath is within the fitting?

Not sure, please see latest pic, may help.

 

[Richard Sewell]

Yes they would, can you post a pic of the internal parts of the fitting.

Yes they would, can you post a pic of the internal parts of the fitting.

Please see pic above.

 

[telectrix]

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Please see pic above.

YUK. hope you got LED lamps for that.

 

[westward10]

Mmm, I don't like the look/quality of that fitting. The problem you have is pulling the three cables into the cable entry by the block connector as you will have to enlarge it and also using this entry will throw it off centre from the existing fitting. The centre hole does not look like a prescribed cable entry and if you used this the conductors will pass below the lamps.

 

[telectrix]

wagobox with wagos in ceiling void. then just a T/E into the fitting. sssimplesss.

 

[ED17]

wagobox with wagos in ceiling void. then just a T/E into the fitting. sssimplesss.

Spot on

 

[westward10]

Doubt the OP has a clue what a Wago box is.

 

[telectrix]

google is his friend

 

[Midwest]

Or a Click Flow Connector, CT102c Click CT102C Clickflow Blue 3-Pin Plug-In Connector with Loop Terminal 20A 250V, CT102C - http://www.discount-electrical.co.uk/product.php/393246843/click-ct102c-clickflow-blue-3-pin-plug-in-connector-with-loop-terminal-20a-250v, suitable piece of flex and an electrician to do it for you

 

[Richard Sewell]

wagobox with wagos in ceiling void. then just a T/E into the fitting. sssimplesss.

I understand wagobox, wagos, but not a T/E - apologies :-D

 

[telectrix]

T/E... twin and earth.

 

[westward10]

Same type of cable that goes to the existing fitting.

 

[Midwest]

Flexible cable would be more suitable IMO, and obtainable in small lengths from the numerous DIY stores, wash my mouth out with soap.

 

[Richard Sewell]

Same type of cable that goes to the existing fitting.

Gocha :-D Google is indeed my friend, even though I appear to be an OP (?)

Thanks to all for the patient replies, much appreciated.

 

[Des 56]

Any connections you make need to be enclosed either in the fitting or a junction box
You could adapt (new hole or make existing bigger)the fitting to allow entry of the cables, make them off in the housing of the fitting,or you do like suggested and fit a junction box then make the connections in there, with perhaps a 3 core flex out to the existing entry hole of the fitting and into the connectors

These manufacturers make these fittings with scant or no regard for how cables are meant to be terminated.
There are millions of loose connectors hanging around in ceilings all over the land because of this scandal
Don't just shove open connectors into your ceiling

 

[telectrix]

Gocha :-D Google is indeed my friend, even though I appear to be an OP (?)

Thanks to all for the patient replies, much appreciated.

OP.... Original Post/Poster.

 

[Midwest]

OP, make sure you isolate your supply safely, before conducting any alterations, and ensure the new luminaire is properly earthed.