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  1. rompling
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    rompling Regular EF Member

    Hi
    Have a job on a very old historic building and the architect is asking for the trunking ( white plastic 25x 40) which is horizontal for about 12m to be secured by chemical / resin fixings

    This is not something I have come across before,have used resin fixings before for a rawlbolt type of fixing but that's not gonna work for pvc trunking let alone the fire rated clips
    Ideas ?
    Or any pointers for fixing in general to really old to crumbling walls
    Any Help as always much appreciated
     
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  2. davesparks
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    davesparks Forum Mentor

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    Tell the architect to come down off of his cloud and try living in the real world?
     
  3. Andy78
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    Old historic building having white pvc trunking installed ? :(
     
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  4. SWD
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    SWD Gender neutral Electrician's Arms

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    It might have been made out of Lego.........
     
  5. SWD
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    SWD Gender neutral Electrician's Arms

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    The architect spent years at Uni and at great expense studying for his degree and then worked in a menial capacity at a "firm" to gain knowledge and experience to become a jumped up know it all with unattainable ambitions,

    To be honest just look him straight in the eye and say the following "you're the genius so tell me what I need to use"
     
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  6. KEV 1 N
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    KEV 1 N Electrician's Arms

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    What about cable retaining clips for fire???......
     
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  7. DefyG
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    DefyG Regular EF Member

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    A Resin will do the trick, even holding the fire clips but more likely to cause extensive damage to the building if and when the trunking/resin needs to be removed!
     
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  8. KEV 1 N
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    KEV 1 N Electrician's Arms

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    Yes the resin is likely to hold a filing cabinet to the wall! But will it sustain its adhesion with the effects of a fire??
     
  9. DefyG
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    DefyG Regular EF Member

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    There are fire resistant resins readily available!
     
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  10. rompling
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    rompling Regular EF Member

    I agree trunking in a beautiful building
    It seems cost is king
    Already trunking in place - which is fixed by screws ....
    And yes fire resting clips will be used
     
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  12. SheffSimon
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    SheffSimon Regular EF Member

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    I doubt he or she is 'jumped up know it all' or sees themselves as a genius. Just somebody doing a job to the best of their ability.
     
  13. PEG
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    PEG Respected Member

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    Yep,this is true,but to have the confidence in specifying a particular product,he or she,must be able to have knowledge of the type,supplier and method.

    Any architect or similar,who comes back with the often trotted "Well you are the installer...what do you normally do..." may often,not know,themselves.

    Not knowing the state of what is being drilled,and,not withstanding the ugly choice of containment,it may require an initial base or track to be fixed,on which to fix the trunking.

    I can think of several better methods,and of several ways of doing what has been asked,all of which rely on further discussion,and elongating someones budget :)
     
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  14. spinlondon
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    How high is the trunking going to be?
     
  15. SWD
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    SWD Gender neutral Electrician's Arms

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    They can be condescending, let them specify the fixings as then if it fails it's down to them but some won't do that as it's a risk to themselves as if it does fails the contractor just points his finger to the architect.
     
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