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  1. midiman
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    Hi,

    Does anyone have any experience of any of these tools?

    Some people say that the Irwin ones are better quality.

    Thanks
     
  2. sevuk
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    Klein tools automatic wire strippers are a LOT better than the CK version. I've never been convinced before, but saw a guy demo them and they are phenomenal. Must pick up some at some point, I think you can only get them at CEF.
     
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    and the Klein ones are currently on offer at CEF, for £22.50 plus vat which is an ok deal, methinks...instore purchase only.
     
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    I might have to nab that.
     
  5. rsgaz
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    The Irwin ones can't fit 1.25mm² flex in them. I had to grind a little bit off the jaws to be able to cram it in there.
     
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    I would like something that is generally capable of stripping 1mm - 2.5mm.
     
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    https://www.amazon.co.uk/CK-Electri...1782032&sr=8-1&keywords=ck+electricians+knife
    Best wire stripper going
     
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    The CK knife will
     
  12. sevuk
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    Yeah the combi cutter wont do the sheath, you'd have to pull the earth back and then cut the split sheath out. Not very neat, but that's how most people do it.
     
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    Do it the proper way:with a decent folding knife or an Electricians knife
     
  14. midiman
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    The videos show you it cutting the outer sheath from the cable.

     
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    All very nice if all you want to do is strip 2inches of outer sheath, how about stripping longer cables, as in a CU install? not very practical really are they, a waste of hard earned, and I'm a tool tart, wouldn't insult my tool bag with a pair of those,
     
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  16. spinlondon
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    As far as I am aware, all these automatic wire strippers are the same.
    Bought a SnapOn pair in 2003/4, never use them.
     
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    Complete waste of money imo.
     
  18. midiman
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    True.

    But I wouldn't have any fingers left I used a knife like the one you showed me.
     
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    perfect tool for stripping PVC/PVC you just need a bit of practice, don't use a Stanley type far to sharp
     
  20. spinlondon
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    These are fine for flat cable, not so good for round.
    Also quite delicate, need to be kept in a case or box.
    Prefer the Jokari type strippers.
     
  21. midiman
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    This man is using a Klein knife.

     
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    American cable is different from the UK,
     
  23. midiman
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    They look interesting and have some good reviews.

    It's a bit of a hybrid design and looks safer to use than an open knife.

    So it could work for me.
     
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    You can just do it multiple times up the cable, say 3 inches apart, then pull the bits of sheath off individually.
     
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    3 inches apart? come on mate get real.
     
  30. rsgaz
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    I just tried it on some 2.5 T&E, it will happily do 8 inches in one go and you can still pull the sheath off easily.

    The reason I said 3 inches before is that the more you strip off in one go, the more of a slight mark it leaves on the remaining sheath, so it's better to do more short bites, than one big bite. So if you want a really long strip, only the last one needs to be a short piece.

    So, you could strip, say, 24 inches off, sheath pulled off also, in less than 5 seconds.
     
  31. Pete999
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    Like I said get real, do the job properly as an Electrician would, imagine you have say 12 suitably sized cables that the mickey mouse strippers can accommodate, how long is your method going to take you? they are expensive gimmicks mate, nothing more nothing less, designed to take lots of pound notes from inexperienced people.
     
  32. rsgaz
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    Much, much less time than using a knife. And zero chance of nicking the insulation.
     
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    Yes. The CK ones are good. They'll strip both the sheath and the cores of 1.0 to 2.5 T&E/3C&E. The only time I don't use them is stripping sheath off close to a backbox where there isn't enough room for them.

    They will fail if the sheath is firmly stuck to the insulation (they'll take the insulation off with the sheath), but then that would be the same for any automatic stripper.

    The Irwin ones look identical, apart from the colour.
     
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    You do it your way mate and I'll do it mine, you can lead a horse to water but you can't make him drink it.
     
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  35. midiman
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    I think it could all be down to personal choice here and each tool and methods has it's merits.

    So I'm stuck unless I can try them all before parting with my money.

    I like the look of the automatic stripper and some of them have really good reviews.

    But Pete is right if it can only strip 2 inches from the cable end. That wouldn't be ideal because I may need to strip 4 inches away etc...

    Maybe it's a case of one size doesn't fit all and I may need a stripper and a knife.
     
  36. rsgaz
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    See my post, number 30, first line.
     
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    Stan Laurel agrees.
     
  38. HandySparks
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    Yes, you need a knife, if only because the stripper won't do all cable types and sizes, but the stripper has its place too.
     
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    I use a Knipex dismantling tool for flex, a complete God send in my view. It's very good for alarm cables too.
    For twin I generally plier-nibble and pull (terrible behaviour....) or carefully and gently score along the middle with a Stanley. Tried a sparks knife and couldn't get to grips with it..should maybe give it another go sometime..

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    The CK ones can't do 1.25mm flex. I have them and this set from Amazon which can handl1 1.5mm flex.

    I don't use them for T&E - they make a nice tidy job, but the little time saved I find is lost as the earth sleeving likes to fall off the clean cut. Find them great for stripping the outer sheath off flexes
     
  42. GBDamo
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    I use the CK ones pretty much every day and they'll strip the sheath off any T&E up to 6mm, 1mm 3core flex and such like. They'll go straight from that to stripping the cores of alarm cable with no adjustment.

    When stripping T&E sheath it is very rare that the unwanted sheath does not pull off easily, even when stripping 18" for CU termination.

    I can prep over 70 cores varying from alarm cable to T&E to flex for termination in under 5 minutes. Pull all the cables in to a pre-populated and glanded adaptable box and five minutes of stripping frenzy.

    Would not be without them unless I could find a set that will do a 2.5 TQ flex then all my stripping needs would be covered by one tool.

    So far the CKs have lasted for two years of daily use and show no signs of failing..
     
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  43. midiman
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    What tool were you talking about again?

    I thought that it might be possible to do more than one cut to get the extra length. I just need to try one out and if all else fails I can buy a knife lol.

    Maybe both have a place in the tool box.
     
  44. Dozer 73
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    Think these tools are good if you Are panel wiring etc with fine stranded wire, with many multi core cables to strip , they make a perfect strip and never cut into cores , not that you should if you are a skilled electrician
    But for everyday sparking a bit OTT in my opinion , but each to their own and why not use them
     
  45. Dozer 73
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    Oh and I have the klein ones ( courstesy of company) which I rarely use , but they do a good job when I do venture in a panel with hundreds of cores facing me
     
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