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  1. grandfortune
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    grandfortune Solar Guru

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    Hi all

    New build house

    Cookers they re supplying dont have room at the backs to allow for the outlet, so for now we are putting 6.0mm out the side cupboard to dual socket then from dual socket to cooker outlet,socket is for plug for gas hob, outlet for cooker

    reason for using a dual is for room for the 6.0mm even though we are only using one for the ignition

    another problem is we only have a 300mm cupboard for these to go into next to the cooker and its awkward to do

    could do with some solutions pls

    i have noticed that there is about 12inches of room below the cooker but if we put socket and outlet there the cable for the gas ignition isn't long enough to reach the bottom (was thinking of putting a dual click cooker outlet on its side feeding cooker then socket),gggrrr

    any ideas lads
    cheers
    grand
     
  2. Midwest
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    Midwest Electrician's Arms

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    Yep flipping kitchen designers, quite often end up putting cooker outlet in adjacent (or not so adjacent) cupboard.

    Cant see anything wrong with running 2.5mm to single socket (for gas ignitor) from cooker outlet (32amp supply).

    Edit; although I tend to spur off RFC for such (gas ignitor)
     
  3. Murdoch
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    Murdoch Electrician's Arms

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    ^^ he says he's going to fit a 2G socket!
     
  4. Midwest
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    Midwest Electrician's Arms

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    I tried to ignore that thought and steer OP in another direction :)
     
  5. mickfred
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    mickfred Regular EF Member

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    Go for the duel click cooker outlet and if you want drop one cable in a sw fuse to put the ignition into
     
  6. valleybilly
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    valleybilly Scuber Do

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    Extend the hob cable and do what u said in your post ?.
     
  7. grandfortune
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    grandfortune Solar Guru

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    i cant see anything wrong in ruining a 2.5mm off the cooker outlet even if im using a 2 gang socket .

    Cheers
    Grand
     
  8. mickfred
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    if it's over 2kw needs its own circuit
     
  9. Midwest
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    Midwest Electrician's Arms

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    It isn't, and it is :)
     
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  10. DPG
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    DPG Electrician's Arms

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    Be some hob ignitor if it needed more than 2kw :)
     
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  11. Taylortwocities
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    Taylortwocities Electrician's Arms

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    No it does not. This comes from Appendix 15 of the bible and that is titled "informative".
    The 2KW malarky is just GUIDANCE

    its to help the hard of thinking when looking at possible circuit designs.

    If the 2KW was a regulation then most domestic appliances would not come with plugs on them, they would have to be hard-wired to connection points around the house.
     
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  12. mickfred
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    mickfred Regular EF Member

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    Your right it is just guidance as is almost every word in the book , but yeah i get you point . I just MISSREAD and thought that the op had changed his mind and was going to plug into the ring main instead(his choice only guidance) .
     
  13. grandfortune
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    grandfortune Solar Guru

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    no its just for the ignition, if i do put it low down ill just fit a 1 gang socket anyway, the reason the the dual socket is to fit the 2x 6.0mm in as it was in a 300mm cupboard and tight to get in.
     
  14. Midwest
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    Midwest Electrician's Arms

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    I know others have already stated/suggested this; for the cooker, I'd install (from the cooker switch) a cooker outlet in adjacent cupboard, mounted surface in the cupboard. For the hob ignitor, I would install a spur socket (spurred off or part of RFC if possible) again mounted surface in adjacent. I would tend to do this on a refurb of a kitchen, and certainly in the case of a new build, where you have a blank canvas.

    If for some reason, this is not achievable (and I can't see why not, in the case of a new build), you might have to feed the hob ignitor socket from the cooker outlet, Click do a two gang cooker outlet plate, if space is tight.
     
  15. reshyam
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    reshyam New EF Member

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    Hi Guys,
    Well come to forum site.We have noticed that there is about 12inches of room below the cooker. But if we put socket and outlet there the cable for the gas ignition isn't long enough to reach the bottom side (we thinking of putting a dual click cooker outlet on its side feeding cooker then socket).
    Thanks.................
     
  16. Midwest
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    Midwest Electrician's Arms

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    Ehh? o_O
     
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  17. DPG
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    DPG Electrician's Arms

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    How odd!
     
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  18. Midwest
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    Midwest Electrician's Arms

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    Very queer!
     
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