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  1. senor_fabulous
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    I got a call from a plumber to price up a job for a 8.5 kW shower. So I went and had a look, told him could be a complete rewire here mate. He and the customer not pleased at this so I told them I will have to do some tests. Plumber says no no dont do that. I said I have to, and it will need a board change anyway. So he and the customer, went through the cable run route, about 18 metres and a right pig. Then the plumber told me he will supply materials, give him a list and I gave him a rough quote there and then. He said I,ve already quoted the customer less than that. He then got really agrressive dont you want £150 blah blah blah. For the fact he got nasty I said yeah I'll do it. He said great be here tommorow at 7. I have just got a call from him " are you coming dont you want £150 " I told him never to ring me again and put the phone down. A new shower cct and board change for £150 what an Nutter.
     
  2. malcolmsanford
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    Was the CU that bad you needed to do a board change?
     
  3. senor_fabulous
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    Yep an old mem rewireable fuseboard cream in colour must be 50 - 60 years old
     
  4. Mark_Burgess
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    A henley block and a small C/U for shower would have done, no need to replace every time.
     
  5. malcolmsanford
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    You've nicked my next suggestion Mark.................;)
     
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  6. sparks1234
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    Should have walked away earlier,its not worth the agro
     
  7. senor_fabulous
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    i did think of that space is tight, just about get away with a board swap
     
  8. Mark_Burgess
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    Well, fair play for shafting the plumber like that, in the past when they or anyone are in mid rant I just walk away without saying anything and snigger to myself when they are shouting "oi, dont you walk away from me".
     
  9. ghost
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    You lasted longer in the room longer than I would have!!!!
     
  10. SPARTYKUS
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    Usually ends with a "you're breaking up......yep you've gone"
     
  11. sparky1502
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    plumbing is a dirty trade....he has prob spent to much time twisting someones ubend....i would have told him to jog on....the idea of a quote is you price up materials and a labour price...they say yes or no...its not can u do it for 150 quid the tool....
     
  12. DurhamSparky
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    hahahhahahaha!! ge in!! if you go to plumbing forum later there wil be a post saying some stupid electrician or somit!
     
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  13. senor_fabulous
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    A grade A tool of the highest order, he should stick to breaking up other people's jobbies than dictating terms to sparks
     
  14. telectrix
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    ask the pratt if he'll install you a new boiler for £150. you'll buy the boiler so he can't put a mark up on it.
     
  15. senor_fabulous
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    Yep could well be. It will start Am I an Angry Nutter, I have been shafted by a spark all because I tried to dictate a price on a job. Oh well there is always my trusty plunger. He was good looking though. LOL
     
  16. DurhamSparky
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    dont even bother talking to him in my opinion!!
     
  17. Guest123
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    What a tool!
     
  18. telectrix
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    nah, tools are useful, plumbers ain't
     
  19. gpz900jim
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    so he quoted the job for you?? and he is mad cos he underquoted it?? hes a ****er. It still would have been too cheap if you put a 1 way cu in and did it that way. the earths would need doing too, and possibly the tails. I wonder if, in that situation if you wouldnt have to introduce supplimentary bonding as well. Not for the shower circuit as thats rcd protected. But you are introducing a circuit into a special location where the other circuit is not rcd protected (lights). Is that correct?, im not 100% on that.
     
  20. jaresquire
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    Good point.

    Anyone?
     
  21. tony mc
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    Supplementary bonding should already be in place for the lights that are in. If it required.
     
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  22. sparky3366
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    Bathroom radiator bonded if the earth resistance is more than 0.05 ohms, if I remember right...
     
  23. malcolmsanford
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    Yes some do seem to use this though IMO I would rather do an IR test from the MET to the pipework and prove if it was an extraneous conductive part. If you get a value of over 22k ohm then it is not classed as a ECP, though I like to go up 1 komh to 23kohm.

    If there are circuits in there that are non RCD protected ie the lights, and the IR tests confirms that the piepwork is an ECP, if there were no bonding to it I would bond it. Though that may be easier said than done espicially if the client as renovated his bathroom and dosen't relish the fact you want to run a 4mm conductor from his pipework to the nearest CPC.
     
  24. simpson93
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    well hes gunna look pretty unproffesional now to his costumer when he says ur not coming
     
  25. saabuldin
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    unfortunatly, i havent come across an agressive customer or tradesman. Must be good experience.
     
  26. ian.settle1
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    Should have said thats your problem and you have informed the LABC by the way.
     
  27. LukeD
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    I can never understand "trade bullying" I have seen it a few times . The last many years ago. The "Bone head" went nuts and smacked a small foreign laborer. I was all over him in seconds and fronted him. Now he was a big guy, but even he knew he was going to get hurt one way or another . he was off site that day and his company sacked him .

    I would never ever let a client or a trades person talk down to me
     
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