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I'm not sure what you mean that 'all work needs certifying'' because that isn't the case (I don't certify all work I do).
All work needs a certificate completing. Do you mean notify?
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I'm not sure what you mean that 'all work needs certifying'' because that isn't the case (I don't certify all work I do).
I think he means electrical testing, inspection and certification.I'm not sure what you mean that 'all work needs certifying'' because that isn't the case (I don't certify all work I do).
This is maintenance rather than installation where one does not need to be issued however there is nothing wrong with a minor works certificate. I assume you did a loop test to check all is safe before replacement.This week I've replaced a ceiling light fitting, a socket and a light switch and no cert was issued and none will be issued.
This week I've replaced a ceiling light fitting, a socket and a light switch and no cert was issued and none will be issued.
This is maintenance rather than installation where one does not need to be issued however there is nothing wrong with a minor works certificate. I assume you did a loop test to check all is safe before replacement.
Then don't as I posted there is nothing requiring you to do so but if you felt you wanted to cover yourself there is nothing stopping you.A minor works cert for changing a plastic light switch, a double insulated light fitting and replacing a plastic double socket absolutely no way. A loop test yes.
Nothing 'high horse' about it. The OP stated he wanted the cheapest and quickest way in.
This week I've replaced a ceiling light fitting, a socket and a light switch and no cert was issued and none will be issued.
Absolutely.Surely you did a Mwc
What happens if something goes wrong and you end up in court, I don't think the judge will just take your word for it that you tested it before you left, they will want proof , which would be a certificate.
Nothing like covering one's behind is there?Absolutely.
Actually, no he didn't. What he *did* state was "I have been around electrics all my life in a DIY capacity, learnt from competent electricians over the years,
Now I hope to gain the required qualification, my question to you is simply ...
What are the bare minimum steps I need to take to achieve that quickly and cheaply?"
So, nothing about doing work for the general public - maybe he just wants to do a bit of advanced DIY or a straight-forward self-build? Maybe, he lives somewhere where getting a qualified electrician to even arrive is difficult and very expensive (like where *I* live - an island off the west coast of Scotland that's 2.5 hours away from anywhere significant on a ferry that doesn't arrive on the 3 days a week it's supposed to if the weather is the least bit dodgy!) and so, not unreasonably, wants to be able to do electrical work himself, legally!
Have you even considered the possibility that he may have engineering qualifications that far outclass yours in terms of ability and technical theory and/or more experience in electrics than 90% of the 'qualified' electricians out there?
Anyway, judging by some of the work I have seen done by so-called 'experts', being a 'properly qualified' electrician isn't that much to shout about... now confirmed by the sensible, mature responses to the OP's original question.
So, yes, get off your high-horses and wind your bally necks in whilst you are at it!
No neither was I, but like you say a MNW cert is the right move, that way you are covered for any mishaps, should they occur. It seems a logical progression, I mean what does completing a MNW cert cost you? nothing in reality, just foolish not to imo.That's all it's about Pete, I'm not suggesting the job wasn't done correctly but if anything did go wrong at later date he's covered with a certificate full of test results.
Firstly I did stipulate you've done nothing wrongThere is no requirement to issue a MWC for replacing a plastic light switch, so how on earth would I end up in court?
Hard to believe as it might seem but an electrical certificate doesn't prove something has been done properly/safely.
I have lost count of how many times I have come across certificated work that is a waste of paper. I recently came across a cert issued for a consumer unit change and there was no cpc in either light circuit, not possible that a cpc existed when the circuits were tested because it was the old twin cable with no cpc. The spark replaced the consumer unit and did the testing of the 3 bed house in a morning according to the house owner (this isn't isolated). No way could I replace the C/u and do a proper test of 8 circuits in morning.
Again I've lost count of how often I come across work such as c/u replacements, new circuits and additions to circuits that is badly done with no certs.
The likelyhood of me ending up in court for replacing a plastic light switch and not issuing a MWC is zero.
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