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  1. snipersmith87
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    Hi fellow sparks. Just started a rewire at mo 3 bed house. Not my usual business tbh. Far and few. Just after any advice into people's routines and methods for efficiency. I'm sure the lads that do this day in day out know some tricks of the trade!! I can't see the light at the end if the tunnel and it's only day 1!!!!
     
  2. buzzlightyear
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    yeah, until some one switches the light on !
     
  3. telectrix
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    a few ways to do it.

    1. power down the lot, rip out, rewire on a 1st fix -2nd fix basis. fit a double socket on a RCD +MCB board to give power for tools. lights etc.

    2. rewire each circuit/floor at a time.

    3. get someone else to do it.
     
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  4. onions1066
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    I always do lighting first round always seem better with the lights on. Are you doing it alone?
     
  5. LankyWill
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    Day 1- Full Prep
    Mark out any additional extras and then chop out and chase every drop in the entire house. Fix all back boxes to walls and lift necessary floor boards, then pack all tools away and sweep and clean everywhere. Install temp power and plan routes for cables ready for tomorrow. Core drill if necessary

    Day 2- Get Pulling Lad
    I wire in order of this:
    -Mains (if not next to board)
    -Water/ Gas
    -Cooker
    -Rings
    -Heating
    -D/S Lights
    - Up Lights

    Day 3- Second fix Sl*t
    Second fix everything at once, and leave face plates un-screwed for testing.

    Day 4- Test and Commission

    This is a brief outline on how i would carry out an empty rewire, Ive never done a lived in rewire and wouldn't for that matter. If its a new build same outline without second fix and testing, two days for a standard 4 bed on my tod.

    Keep going!
     
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  6. telectrix
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    so what do you do after lunch?
     
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  7. Dave OCD
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    Bloody hell you're fast young Will ! :)
     
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  8. buzzlightyear
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    always start room the top work my way down
    con in /test job done
     
  9. buzzlightyear
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    upload_2017-7-10_21-23-1.png yeah ,until he get a heart attack.
     
  10. Dave OCD
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    You can do it while young, then aches and pains and general knackeredness come along but you can offset the slower pace with experience. I can 2nd fix a double socket in 4 minutes if pushed.:D
     
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  11. snipersmith87
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    Exactly how I've intended buddy. Day 1 chopping and boards up. Routes mapped. Tomorrows cable pulling. Appreciate the advice!!
     
  12. buzzlightyear
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    are you working on you own. or have you a lackey!
     
  13. Dave OCD
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    Far better with a lackey - or even two ! :)
     
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    Number all the floor boards you pull up. Screw them back down don't nail them.
     
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  15. LankyWill
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    Yeah and Rough;) Na thats what an apprenticeship in house bashing gets you, sadly my boss was on price so i was his donkey, fast donkey= good donkey. I must say now i am on day rate and calling my own shots i tend to have a more relaxed pace. You old boys or should i say 'seasoned" boys would wipe the floor with me, when it comes to containment.
     
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  16. Dave OCD
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    Excellent advice Lee, I still see people nailing boards down, just silly. I was glad of screwed boards when a customers cat went missing one day. :D
     
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    Best avoided ...,,,
     
  18. buzzlightyear
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    yeah, one of those are you upload_2017-7-10_21-50-7.png
     
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    I like a rewire but only if there is no one living there, it has no carpets or furtniture, it doesn't have tounge and groove flooring and the whole gaff is getting replastered :D
     
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  21. LankyWill
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    Forgot to add, thats with a half decent apprentice on the rewire bit.
     
  22. Dave OCD
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    Even better with no ceilings. :)
     
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    the rewire I get its like strictly come dancing with moving the furniture around with the customer still sat in the chair.
     
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  24. Dave OCD
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    Ah that makes more sense.
     
  25. Dave OCD
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    Picturing that has me laughing but I've been there too, half an hour of moving [email protected] before you can get to do anything, and that's in every room. :)
     
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    Last rewire I done the landlord hadn't got rid of all the furniture like he was supposed to and the carpets were being replaced.......left the apprentice to break the furniture up and lob it out the window on to the front garden then Stanley the carpets up which also got lobbed out the window whilst I went down the cafe with the other sparks :eek::D
     
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    when the customer says mind the carpet ,and it thread bear and you see the poor old
    mice packing their stuff. now that what I call a rewire .
     
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  28. Leesparkykent
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    Or the house is a complete s**t hole and you end up leaving the house cleaner than when you started the rewire.
     
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  29. Dave OCD
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    Yep even had one so bad I declined tea !!! :D
     
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  30. buzzlightyear
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    be fore start a job I always ask can I use you loo.
    if that's not clean then the tea they put in cup not clean neither .
     
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    had a few of them in my time...absolutely gasping but you've seen the state of the kitchen. I always say the apprentice will have one though haha
     
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    You're patter is mince Buzz, stick to space travel.
     
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    went to a cooker connection today, customer just moved house and frying pan still stuck to the bl**Dy cooker .
     
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  34. snipersmith87
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    I've got an apprentice but hes
     
  35. Pete999
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    I take it all these day 1 day 2 etc are in an empty house, wouldn't be able to do that in an occupied dwelling
     
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    Yes pete. Properties empty. I just questioned my self and time scale as you hear of these sparks rewiring occupied houses in a couple of days. It's just me and a young lad. Literally his first month at electrical work.
     
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    OK thanks for getting back
     
  38. WELLSIANA
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  39. PEG
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    Cannot think of anything worse,than an occupied ,full rewire...need full unhindered access,or nowt.

    Did a job years back,at a retired judges property,where he and his wife,sat at the kitchen table all day in their bath robes,reading dozens of newspapers,whilst 12 cats marched about,putting their feet in and out of every cup,bowl and pan.

    Never got offered a brew-thank the lord...and he paid me with a money-order,which i had to ring me dad,to find out what it was.

    There was no repeat.
     
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  40. WELLSIANA
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    Surely if you have no experience , then you could not meet a competent value required , i would guess you would fail regs however long it took you and it could well be dangerous result. Is it worth that when you could get it done for around 4k-4.5k with certification , if its still worth the bash take out quality life and building insurance
     
  41. Pete999
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    Got to start somewhere WELLSIANA
     
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    Got to start somewhere WELLSIANA
     
  43. snipersmith87
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    I'm an approved sparky mate. I know how to rewire a house electrically and I'll be signing it off too. Just don't do it day in and day out. The routing side of things etc. Been more commercial/industrial side. Was just curious to people's methods. Everyone does things slightly different. Somebody may suggest a more efficient way than myself. Always one that pops up with the sarcasm. I'm still willing to learn everyday and take on board others views buddy.
     
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  44. WELLSIANA
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    Well best place might be a college course , get some basics behind you , by not even being at a competent level you are going against all guidance and hs at work regs , how would you get anyone to sign it off to local authority .
     
  45. WELLSIANA
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    There was no sarcasm in my post just truth , maybe you should have worded your original post better , no mention of you being in the trade , in fact you say no your normal business , and then asked for advice , maybe if you had made any experience you had more apparent people would not think , hey up its the bread maker going to rewire his house , having said that i do nearly only Domestic electrical work , over 40 years Domestic , last week i got asked to put in 4 3 phase sockets , i still knew what to do , regs etc, so i stand by why if your in the trade you need to ask , as it just gets done when it gets done , especially as empty , no sarcasm was meant just honesty as i read it , and if you read original post from out of the box maybe you will see looking in its now not how the situation looks.
     
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