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  1. cossie362
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    hi guys
    quick question regarding downlighters with no fire hoods in a top floor flat
    building is 15yrs old requires a periodic before bein let out on the new deic reports would this be a code c3?
     
  2. robsparky1975
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    i think so,even worse as well if there is loft insulation,but its a small cost fix for the owner and a must.i have seen people use flower pots before!!!!
     
  3. TPES
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    Are these fittings that are recessed with no habitable room above? accessed via the loft?
     
  4. cossie362
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    yes loft access only
     
  5. rich.250
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    Doesn't sound like a fire ceiling.
    And isn't fire rating a building reg?
    N/a to EICR??
     
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    agree with rich.250. just move insulation away. no code.
     
  7. cossie362
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    thanks for the info peeps
     
  8. rich.250
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    Glad I'm not alone in my opinion telectrix ;)
     
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    and they don't have to be fire rated downlights either.
     
  10. nickblake
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    what i have used in the past to protect the down light from the insulation i a plastic terminal that goes on top of soil pipes etc just bend the retailing legs over place over the down light an stick like sh** to hold it in place works a treat
     
  11. TPES
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    Think I'm right in saying only require fire rating between floors, (If there's a room above) to stop the spread of fire to a habitable room, if it's a loft above then no fire rated fitting required, just clear insulation around the fitting..

    Personally I always fit fire rated downlights no matter where they are installed, common sense sometimes has to take over here, I have seen many bags and Xmas tree boxes thrown into a loft hatch and resting against light fittings..
     
  12. rich.250
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    Fire rated would be my choice, and there required in a dwelling above 2nd storey If habitable. E.g loft conversion.
    Or if it's a separate dwelling above. Flats etc

    But this is irrelevant to EICR as its a building regulation.
     
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    I was pulled at my elecsa inspection last year because I'd fitted fire rated downlights in a Ceiling with a loft above, cut around the insulation and not fitted hoods. I was told that I must always fit a hood and use heat resistant flex to the fitting. I was surprised but there you go.
     
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    If the fitting is fire rated then surely it removes the need for a hood. Also flex? Really?
    I'd question those points myself
     
  15. TPES
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    That's right, I always use heat resistant flex to each fitting
     
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