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Discuss EICR codes again earths to double ins fittings in the Periodic Inspection Reporting & Certification area at ElectrciansForums.co.uk.

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  1. andyyoyo
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    andyyoyo Active EF Member

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    Just been to an inspection today, as with many of them its suffering from a bit of DIY, bathroom downlights are above 225, so are out of zones, but are not IP rated, so I will probably give them a C3 ? They are double insulated but the earths have been nicely snipped out so are discontinuous & unterminated, so maybe a C2?
    I'm still taking far too long with the new forms, is it just me? maybe I'm becoming an old stick in the mud.
     
  2. ample current
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    ample current Regular EF Member

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    i thought if they were out of zones they did not have to be IP rated, although prefered.
     
  3. andyyoyo
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    andyyoyo Active EF Member

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    Exactly, but I still think maybe it warrants some mention as these are open GU10s, thats why I was thinking of using a C3
     
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    Guest 004 Guest

    surely just a code 4?
     
  5. andyyoyo
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    andyyoyo Active EF Member

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    Er, wot code 4 didnt think they exist anymore
     
  6. Guest 004
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    Guest 004 Guest

    oh really, been away for a while
     
  7. andyyoyo
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    andyyoyo Active EF Member

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    We are on the 19th edition now I think
     
  8. Guest 004
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    oh and that came out this morning did it?
     
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    Guest 004 Guest

    Lets wait for the big boys reply
     
  10. rich.250
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    rich.250 Electrician's Arms

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    You could recommend improvement c3,
    But that's your professional opinion. No supporting regulations.

    As for the lack of CPC continuity, my code would depend on If it has RCD protection or supplementary bonding to provide protection for bathroom.
     
  11. rich.250
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    rich.250 Electrician's Arms

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    I don't think the new forms take any longer than a detailed pir now I'm used to the forms
     
  12. needasparks
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    needasparks Electrician's Arms

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    Think similar question was answered earlier, Just because they are out of the zone does not mean they are suitable for their location.
    steam and moisture tends not to know the regs and goes where it likes.
     
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  13. Des 56
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    Des 56 Trusted Advisor

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    The fittings have to be suitable for the environment

    In a bathroom I dont believe open lamp downlighters are suitable
    Aside from moisture penetration,there is danger of injury should the lamp glass shatter,especialy,if like me the user tramps about barefoot
     
  14. Guest 004
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    Guest 004 Guest

    code 3 requires improvement, either by bonding or RCD protection
     
  15. andyyoyo
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    andyyoyo Active EF Member

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    No RCD, but I was going to recommend RCBOs for the lighting circuits anyway. No visible supplimentary bonding, but there is continuity at pipework etc.
     
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