Eicr coding

[gnselectricals]

Doing a test the other day and found a couple of metal light switches no earth to faceplate just to back box but both lugs were fixed.
What code do you reckon I'm saying 3 but it's a 2 minute job anyway to rectify. Can't recall seeing it before though
Cheers

 

[telectrix]

less trouble to fix than enter on the cert.

 

[gnselectricals]

less trouble to fix than enter on the cert.

True but gotta find some faults for my money !

 

[UNG]

True but gotta find some faults for my money !

I find it's better to tell the customer there were a few very minor faults that have been rectified.
The faults you mention are not worth the time, effort and ink to note it down plus the time to open a what code debate on here

 

[bigspark17]

No code.. Aslong as there is one fixed lug no code required, faceplate cant be taken off until isolated, not to say i wouldnt tell the customer and refer to any manufacturers instruction.

 

[Plonker 3]

No code.. Aslong as there is one fixed lug no code required, faceplate cant be taken off until isolated, not to say i wouldnt tell the customer and refer to any manufacturers instruction.

How do you know a switch is safely isolated with out removing it from the box?

 

[Plonker 3]

Double post

 

[bigspark17]

When all lights controlled on that switch go off is a good indication then mcb/mcbs locked off, refering to any 'isolate at' stickers then finally opened and tested!

 

[Barry White]

Quote Bigspark "No code.. Aslong as there is one fixed lug no code required, faceplate cant be taken off until isolated, not to say i wouldnt tell the customer and refer to any manufacturers instruction."

How do you know a switch is safely isolated with out removing it from the box?

You dont without removing testing but how many metal clad consumer units,switch fuses grid switches etc use this method to earth the faceplate. Personaly I earth all metal switches with a flylead but its belt and braces.
Most manufacturers instructions recomend "earthing"

 

[telectrix]

bollox. the faceplate must be earthed. a fly lead to the box is optional.

 

[Barry White]

Earth this then with a flylead

K3634 GRA | 4 Gang Moulded Graphite Frontplate | MK

 

[bigspark17]

Im not saying i wouldnt put a fly earth lead to it as i 100% would but to fail this on a eicr you must put a reg no aggainst it.! Exacly db covers grid faceplates are good examples

 

[Plonker 3]

Im not saying i wouldnt put a fly earth lead to it as i 100% would but to fail this on a eicr you must put a reg no aggainst it.! Exacly db covers grid faceplates are good examples

Neither of which ususally have any live terminals on them, therefore becoming just a piece of metal once removed. Unlike the switch which the OP asked about.

 

[bigspark17]

Neither of which ususally have any live terminals on them, therefore becoming just a piece of metal once removed. Unlike the switch which the OP asked about.

So what code are you putting and what reg number?

 

[Plonker 3]

C2 as 2 faults could cause the metal to become live and create a dangerous situation. Not got the regs too hand right now though.

 

[Deleted member 26818]

Is this getting a bit silly or what?
The face plate is earthed via the 3.5mm screws.
As such no code.

 

[Plonker 3]

Is this getting a bit silly or what?
The face plate is earthed via the 3.5mm screws.
As such no code.

What happens to the earth path when it is unscrewed?

 

[stevethesparks]

As I understand it, the back box does not require a fly-lead if the back box has a fixed lug. My preference is to fit one anyway.
However, the faceplate/grid yolk should be earthed - you cant rely on the fixed lug to earth the switch assembly from the back box via the fixing screw.

 

[bigspark17]

What happens to the earth path when it is unscrewed?

When its uncrewed it will be isolated, then re screwed up before re-energising! If its a c2 you need to ref a reg number which you have not done.?

 

[bigspark17]

As I understand it, the back box does not require a fly-lead if the back box has a fixed lug. My preference is to fit one anyway.
However, the faceplate/grid yolk should be earthed - you cant rely on the fixed lug to earth the switch assembly from the back box via the fixing screw.

You seem to contradict yourself there. We are not talking about prefrences im sure all members on hete would earth it but were talking eicr coding which need to ref facts and regs