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  1. JonnyRegga
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    Hi Everyone,
    I have been told that when I join a Part P scheme I have to complete an EICR form for every installation or addition to a circuit before I can do any work on the circuit. So even putting a new socket on a bedroom circuit I have to complete an EICR form. To do that I have to have indemnity insurance as well as public liability insurance. If I don't have the indemnity insurance then I have to pay someone who is authorised to write out a EICR before I can do any work under part P schme.

    I didn't know I had to do an EICR form before I can even add a socket to an exsisting circuit, or not having indemnity insurance I have to pay someone to write the EICR form.

    This doesnt sound right to me?
     
  2. Midwest
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    Midwest Electrician's Arms

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    Where did you obtain this advice from?

    PS have a read of reg 132.16
     
  3. westward10
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    westward10 In echoed steps I walk across an empty dream. Electrician's Arms

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    It is always wise to test the circuit you are working on first to identify any possible problems which may need attention/additional costs because you don't want to find them after. You would need to do a Minor Works Cert anyway.
    If changing a board it is advisable to undertake a full test for the same reasons but for single circuit alteration then no but you need to verify adequacy of earthing/bonding etc.
     
  4. SparkyChick
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    SparkyChick Making a banana smoothy for my fave gorilla Electrician's Arms

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    westward beat me to it, so what he said :)
     
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  5. JonnyRegga
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    One of the part P schemes staff.

    I would always check circuits before I do any work on it and make sure it is safe to add on to it. But having indemnity insurance and filling out a EICR form even for an extra socket seems wrong to me?
     
  6. Midwest
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    Midwest Electrician's Arms

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    As said no you don't, EICR. Which Scheme by the by?
     
  7. westward10
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    westward10 In echoed steps I walk across an empty dream. Electrician's Arms

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    It is unnecessary sounds like crossed wires, ouch:)
     
  8. Murdoch
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    You don't need to be a member of a scheme to do EICR's
     
  9. Midwest
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    Midwest Electrician's Arms

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    Perhaps you just misunderstood what they were advising, perhaps they were suggesting what Westward was suggesting?
     
  10. westward10
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    westward10 In echoed steps I walk across an empty dream. Electrician's Arms

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    Very suggestive.
     
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  11. Midwest
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    Midwest Electrician's Arms

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    Only making a suggestion :)
     
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  12. JonnyRegga
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    I did argue what they said but they wasnt having it.

    I used to know the EICR as a periodic inspection form, which for example was also used for lanlord checks if I am thinking of the right form.

    But if I do domestic work then I am right that I wont need to fill out a EICR form before I do any work So the advisor I spoke to gave me the wrong information.

    Thank you all for the replys
     
  13. Midwest
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    In a nutshell big YES. As long as you comply with reg 132.16, do your addition/alteration and complete, if appropriate Minor Works, unless its a new circuit or consumer unit change, then EIC.
     
  14. Midwest
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    Midwest Electrician's Arms

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    I'm orrfff now to make a suggestion to her indoors....................what to have for tea, or if you're a posh northerner, dinner. :)
     
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  15. Midwest
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    Midwest Electrician's Arms

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    OP. Email, don't ring, you scheme and pose the question you've asked here. Just bullet proof your bum. Always find ringing them, you'll end up with some knob who gives the wrong advice. Email is so much more compelling for them, you even get reg numbers quoted. If its urgent, you can always get collective advice here.

    Now where's me mushrooms and tarragon?
     
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